What happens when u die

[Peetee]

When u die do u have to go to a spawn point or original place or something different? Also wonder when u die can just anybody loot your body or is there gonna be a time limit for the one who finishs u off to collect what they want?

[Peetee]

forgot to ask if they is gonna be a lvl restriction on the pking

[Mene]

Well it is all discussed at www.darkandlight.com , so if you want you can go to the faq if you need a clearer version or more questions answered but I think it's going to be a spawn point and when you are at a lower level almost all you belogs stick with you and as you level up you start to lose more things. But a higher lvl player can't kill a lower lvl player without a penalty, such as being blacklisted and can be hunted when ever.

[CommanderDelta]

I wonder if PvP (PKing) will be allowed everywhere on the map. Maybe there are some safezones where you cant be PKed... that would be a better slution then make it eXp based...

[eg0]

· What about my body and objects I own when I die?

Low level Players retrieve their objects instantly (on their brand new body). The handicap grows according to the level of the player.

· How Player vs. Player works?

Apart from the two Dark and Light Kingdoms which are completely banned areas for the challenger alignment, the ten Kingdoms to conquer are all PvP between Dark and Light alignments. Moreover, a code of honor will limit the inopportune attacks of the strong players on weakest.


Hope that helped little bit..

[Peetee]

yes it did ty

[Edited on 02/03/2003 by Peetee]

[CommanderDelta]

Thats like with another game i used to play (STCO). At first, a lot of players did what we called Newbie Bashing, thats attacking n00bs, which is of course very easy. But then the developers made it less profitable to kill n00bs, when a high eXp player attacks a n00b, the high eXp player wins nothing. the most profitable is to play against people with the same, or almost the ame as yourself.

This is probably the same principle.

[stephen_sof]

hmmm no n00b bashing then :(

[Terevanincu]

People ! Please read the FAQ !!!!

[Shazi]

I agree with Terevanincu,
Before u ask questions about the game, go check out the FaQ for info ;)

If i remember correctly there is a quite good explenasion about how PKing will work.

[CommanderDelta]

Not really Shazi... there are a few questions i have about PKing...

How does PKing affect guild relations (does this mean that a guild can only have 1 alignment?)

Will you able to be neutral, reading the FAQ i would say no, but when thinking about it that doesnt seem fair...?

[Shazi]

Well, it has been discussed before. I don't remember exactly where it was, i think it got wiped with the update of DnL - the community.

But from what i know i can say, no, a guild doesn't have to choose an alignment.

A "long" note about the dark and light alignments:

If ur dark it doesn't neccesarily mean that ur evil, for example, I have been chosen to save the world (very original). I can do this two ways, either i do it the "light" way (usually this means going on a long journey to "prevent" the evil from taking over the world), or i do it the "dark" way, i simply go straight ahead and do whatever needed to save the world. Like, i need a key. A small poor boy thief has it and won't give it to me unless i pay him a certain amount of money. Now the light way would be to do everything i can to pay him and the dark way would be simply just to kill him and take the key.

So the question is, if i killed 1000 innocent ppls to save the world, would that be more "light" than going on a long quest to save the world (even if i'd probably fail because it took so goddam long time). Now tell me what is "dark" and what is "light"

Srry, if i complicated ur question delta but this is all i know from the forum discussions about being dark or light.
I hope i helped ya a little :)

[CommanderDelta]

Well, that i knew :)

The prob is with fighting... dark can ONLY fight light, and NEVER first dark (they can, but it wouldnt hurt them or something). I ask myself the question here, would it be possible to create a guild with AND dark AND light people in it. I mean, of course you could (if the dev's dont ban it ingame) but would it be wise (for instance, as a neutral guild you could have friends in both light and dark alignments... but also enemies in both world).

Also, maybe cities from dark people wont be reachable for light people (or they have to conquer it)...

???

[Shazi]

Oh, now i see your point...

That is a good question and my guess in that case would be that Dark can ONLY fight Light and Light can ONLY fight Dark. The reason i think that is because the games obvious view on alignments... The thought with the game (if i got it right) is to create a fight between Light and Dark and it would be kind of hard to create a neutral clan since it would break the thought with the game.
(if im wrong here then please whack me in the head dev's ;) )

[CommanderDelta]

Well, doesnt that kinda depend. SoF wants to be neutral, that means have both light and dark people...

This will have certain advantages and disadvantages, for example:

Both light and Dark people could fight against SoF members and cause them harm... but SoF can never be destroyed (for example, when SoF has 4 cities, 2 dark and 2 light, and a bigger dark guild attacks SoF, then they can capture the 2 light cities, but not the 2 dark ones)

I think it is possible to make a neutral guild, and SoF is willing to try to do just that....

How?

Thats something u will see... we are discussing this right now, but BN and I have some great ideas :)

[Shazi]

Share mate!!! ;)

Well what i thought was, since Dark and light are supposed to kill eachothers, doesn't it mean that most SoF members are SUPPOSED (im not saying that they will) bash eachothers up?

[Bluenose]

No one said they are supposed 2 kill each other, only that they CAN kill each other. :)

I think it wd be gd to have a guild with members from each side, as would mean if someone was getting pissed off with a member from their own side, (dark or light) thry could get their opposite members in the guild to seek them out an kick their butt for them :)

[Shazi]

Oh well... it sounds good, i relly hope it will be possible to make a neutral guild (altho i have my doubts)

[CRAM]

Yea I was questioning being neutral as well. I really hope that is one of the benefitting factors of the game in which you may not always have to be dark or light. Maybe if there is enough of us, they may open it up to that option.

[CRAM]

Yea I was questioning being neutral as well. I really hope that is one of the benefitting factors of the game in which you may not always have to be dark or light. Maybe if there is enough of us, they may open it up to that option.

[Kormath]

So if i understand correcktly, u can not kill( if ur on the dark guild)
Other members of that guild?

I also think there should be an nutral race but,they sould have some downpoints.
bcus other wise most of the players will be neutral!
i was thinking in the sense of:

Gain less experiance
Weaker spells

but they also need some advantages!

Can attack Dark and light
Different spells


or maybe i'm playing dominion far 2 long :p

[Seton]

I don't think there should be a neutral race (or several). But you can play neutral with dark or light character.
As I see it there are quite some ways for a character to go in. For example; you can be a Light/ Fxp/Evil character or on the other side a Drak/Sxp/Good character. Even a Dark/Sxp/Neutral caharacter, for as I see it, Dark and Light (bringing it back to the basics) only affects which spells you have and not which way you play the game. You can even Be a Light/Fxp and Sxp/Good.
Maybe I'm just talking crazy, but this is the way I see it now. Plz correct me if I'm wrong ;)

[~Ice~]

i agree with you a bit seton

[CommanderDelta]

Indeed, dark cannot fight dark (only friendly battle). But because of the storyline I am against having a neutral alignment. Dark and light are fine, if there was neutral too it would make the game less interesting.

[~Ice~]

i dont mind having neutrals but after a while you should be moving to evil or good side anyway so you should be able to change during the game to good or evil if your neutral

[~Ice~]

OFcourse once it's chosen you cant change it back

[Esper]

its better with light and dark cuz then you can have more interesting "wars"

[~Ice~]

there should be a time limit once your in the game(as neutral) to choose if you want to be dark or light

[Edited on 8/3/2003 by ~Ice~]

[~Ice~]

fights between dark and light is better because if your neutral you can survive without fighting if lucky

[Kormath]

i agree with ~ICE~, if there are gonna be neutrals, there should be an time limit.
or some kind of stat thats indicate's whether ur good or evil!!

like if u attack animals allot of attack other towns, u should be more evil so u will atomatich become Dark.
don't u think?

[~Ice~]

kormath has extended my idea and couldnt of been done any better

[Kormath]

Thank u ~ICE~

[CRAM]

I think the neutral idea is a great idea, and woulnd't make the game less fun but actually more interesting because now those players of dark and light status do not know who their true enemies are.

[Kormath]

I like neural also, but my idea was some kind of balance scale!!!!
u can be neutral if u Actualy act like Neutral!!!!.
if u chose neutral, and u contantly attack villagers u will automatck become Evil!!!!
and if u only kill the Evil Species u will become good!
bcus WHAT is neutral?

[CRAM]

Well I figured that being neutral was that you didn't take any of the attributes of light or dark, but instead was more of a solo character doing their own thing. If they kill villagers, yes they may become evil, but that is not a Dark nor Light attribute. So in fact they are staying neutral, but they are an evil neutral. As for attributes, I feel that the side you choose offers different "specialties" than the other side. So a neutral person would choose neither.

[Kormath]

so in fact they are weaker, BUT can attack Dark AND Light and can kill everything or NOT!

But they will have other magic i sepose!

[CRAM]

Yes exactly, or atleast that's the way I see of it.

[Halsver]

Kormath i think you are assuming that dark is evil and light is good. Wether a person is evil or good should be completely independent of light or dark.

As for guilds with both Dark and light in them, I think it is a bad idea. While this game is more PvP oriented than EQ, cross teaming generally leads to less PvP and more PvE. While I myself would rather explore the whole world than conquer it, I feel Xteaming is anti PvP as it is anti roleplay. (well I could be wrong about the RP)

[CRAM]

I don't actually see a dark and light guild as a negative aspect to the game. It will introduce both sides of strengths in time of warfare which would make that particular guild a very worthy opponent. I feel that the PvP will be just as high if guilds have dark and light in them because it's more of guilds being at war with each other than it is the individuals.

[Kormath]

i think a Dark and a light in a guild will be more fun.
bcus than u will have a sort of disscusion over what the guild will be doing.
other wise it if boring!!!,

if Light: u can't do this and u can't do that

but if Both u can do everything, BUT u must think it over!

i don't say that every guild must have a Dark Light allignment
but some must
thats my oppinion!

[CRAM]

Yea I feel the same way, It's basically all a matter of preference to the guilds and the guild master as to what their goals and outcomes are going to be.

[Kormath]

yea, than the game will be more fun!

[CRAM]

Yup exactly :)

[Seton]

I'll leave U 2 alone now, mayB U can hold hands and walk off into the distance :P

[CRAM]

lol funny guy seton hehe

[Kormath]

u think,
i can hit him if i want, bcus i know were he live's

[CRAM]

Sure why not :)
Have your fun Kormath lol

[TCUBED]

o0o0o I cant wait to PK so these boards actually mean somethin when we talk about ingame PvP ^^D

[CRAM]

Oh yea, people will be talking about the G00dTymRZ all over these boards.

[TCUBED]

Hopefully we can be sorta like an FCA type pledge, but theres no huge alliance that always wins ya know ;D

[~Ice~]

being neutral will be fun, but it would be hard to maintain