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SlowMoon
06-24-2005, 02:42 AM
Brief History:

The Water Rats are a secretive Guild that is rumored to be making preparations for the return of the Dark One. If you wish to learn more and become a member you need to seek out Alisstra in Al’Drifa for further information.

Headquarters: Al'Drifa

Religion: The Water Rats are busy making preparations for the return of the Dark One. Until then the Dark One is not known to outsiders.

Alignments: In general the Alignment of most members tends towards a chaotic nature, although the Leadership of the Guild tends towards a lawful one.

Symbol: The Rat symbolizes wealth, cunning, wisdom, ingenuity, prudence and foresight. The circle stands for a continuous power, and devotion to the Guild, although it is also rumored that the circle in fact represents the moon (prior to its split).

Guild members wear a medallion hung on a silver chained necklace that glows with deep violet light (a dark light) equivalent to that of a torch when worn. The medallion is fashioned of silver and is about 3 centimeters in diameter, and is in the shape of a rat inside a circle.

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A Tale of 2 Rats

Have you heard the tale of Cevo and Vesium, the tale of the Two Water Rats? Cevo and Vesium were two poor men living in a town of nobles. They would scrounge around the docks of this Al’Drifa, begging for food, or a spare copper. They became known to the Sailors as the Water Rats.

One dreary evening, a tall dark man wearing a black cloak obscuring his face, approached Cevo and Vesium, and asked if they would join him on his ship.

Cevo asked, "What will we get if we come?"

The dark cloaked man replied "Anything you ask for," with a voice of deep power that you could almost swear originated inside your head.

"What will you want in return?" asked Vesium.

"That we will discuss on my ship, now come, and I will feed you."

Once onboard Vesium and Cevo became wary and uncertain. The ship was composed of wooden planks that appeared to be burnt black as ash. With the movement of the surf the ship groaned as though hundreds of souls were calling out to them. The air smelled of sulfur and rot. Although the vessel seemed otherworldly, the temptation to recieve the gift of anything they asked for was too great.

They entered the captains quarters, and were told to sit down at a table. The cabin was lit only by one candle enough for the water rats to make out pictures of death on the wall. and maps on the table of the whole world. Places that Cevo and Vesium had never heard of before.

”The end of an age is near." The black cloaked man started. "The Dark One is almost free, I am Slevain, second to the Dark Lord, and will grant you two immortality, and power others' can only dream of.”

”W-what, do you want in return?" nervously asked Cevo.

"To lead an army, to conquer the light, and to free the Dark One."

"But why us?" Questioned Vesium.

"The Dark One has chosen the two of you for his own reasons. He has watched you for sometime, now decide quickly, immortatlity, power and all the gold in the world, or death."

"We choose the Dark One" blurted out Cevo, he would rather live, than die.

"Does he speak for the both of you?"

"Y-yes sir, oh Dark Lord sir." replied Vesium.

"Then Cevo I grant you the power of a Warrior," as Slevain pulled out a black sword, "when you swing this sword for our cause, those you kill will have their' souls bound to its blade." Slevain reached out and touched Cevo with his pale white hand and Cevo felt as if molten lava had been powered into his veins as he could feel his soul being pulled out of his body, then he felt the power at his finger tips. "You will be able to summon lighting from the skies and quake the earth where your enemies stand" Continued Slevain.

"Vesium, I give you this staff," Slevain handed the staff two hands taller then Vesium, and black as night, with diamond on the top that had a red flame glowing inside, "You will be able call fire and demons from the ground, and rip the souls out of those that are still living, the dark ones creatures will obey your commands." Slevain reached out with his hand and touched Vesium, his skin felt as if it were on fire, then he could feel his soul being lost. The void was quickly filled with his new power and immortality.

As Vesium grabbed onto the staff the diamond with the red flame seemed to flare so bright, that it hurt his eyes. But he was also looking at Cevo and already becoming jealous of his powers, as he knew Cevo would be jealous of his.

"Now go and create yourselves an army and a place of hallowed ground to be called Namur," Commanded Slevain, "Free the Dark One, and you will have a seat at his table."

Cevo and Vesium were powerful indeed, and took half of the known world, into the guild of The Water Rats. All members of the Water Rats had a distinctive medallion of a rat within a circle of half a hand in diameter. The medallion radiates a deep violet glow.

Alas, Cevo and Vesium became so lost in their' powers that they turned on themselves before reaching the goal assigned to them. Souls were ripped from men, earth quaked, fire grew from the gound and lighting struck. The clash of Cevo and Vesium's power, made all those that carried the Water Rat medallion, perish along with their souls.

It is said that during the depth of the night near the graveyard in the ruins of that old town that Cevo and Vesium called home, you may find the souls of the long dead Water Rats rise from the grave trying to complete the task ordained to them. It is also said that the dark coins they carry may hold some of the power promised to their' founders long before.

Slevain, has approached us again, and wants the Water Rats reborn. If you join us you may be granted a seat at the dark ones table. Now go and bring me 50 dark coins from the distressed undead souls, and you will be on your way to being made eternally a Water Rat.

Ready
07-09-2005, 09:02 AM
The Portal for Dark and Light should be up shortly. If you are interested in joining the guild in Dark and Light please register at www.3cdgamers.com and drop us a line in the public forums.

We are a mature group of players who utilize teamspeak.

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Ready
07-10-2005, 07:56 AM
Putting in the last touches on the site now... Anyway don't miss out!

Sincere
07-11-2005, 01:30 AM
This name reminds me of EQ2, anything to do with that game?

For some reason I just remember an enemy named water rat something or other. :)

SlowMoon
07-14-2005, 03:42 AM
Some members of our guild do/did play EQ2.

Not me though :D

Ready
07-14-2005, 07:23 PM
Yeah we did a lot of EQ2 on the Najena server... What guild were you with in EQ2?

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Ready
09-27-2005, 03:07 AM
We're just a month out from the release... If you are interested in getting involved now is the time to do it.

Darkblade101
10-07-2005, 04:29 AM
Just dropping a note here ready,cant wait to get back with the guild.

Are we going dark or light ?

MasterBeliar
10-07-2005, 05:31 AM
My guess is dark like 99% of the other posts on this forum.

Ready
10-07-2005, 11:22 AM
We are currently talking that over on the forums:

http://dl.thewaterrats.com

Be sure to put in your 2 cents.

Edmond
10-21-2005, 10:09 PM
Edmond T. Grim emerges from the shadows.

Ready
10-23-2005, 03:42 AM
Bump for open recruiting prior to SoG

FNMAG
10-25-2005, 12:05 AM
Ready, I'm going to get into Dark and Light along with some bodies of mine. This may sound stupid but I don't have a lot of time to read. How do I register with the DnL Guild? Thanks mate.

Dogness
10-26-2005, 09:04 AM
Hello, is this thing on?

Ready
10-26-2005, 10:42 AM
lol

Why yes it is Dogness!

Ready
10-26-2005, 10:43 AM
Ready, I'm going to get into Dark and Light along with some bodies of mine. This may sound stupid but I don't have a lot of time to read. How do I register with the DnL Guild? Thanks mate.

Mag goto the Clan Page and click join.

Jailbreak
10-26-2005, 08:32 PM
Hey now!

Looking forward to an great new game, hope to join up with you guys in this new adventure.

Ready
10-27-2005, 02:06 AM
Welcome Jailbreak!

Make sure you stop over at the Guild Site (http://dl.thewaterrats.com) and register and what not. :)

Ready
10-27-2005, 08:43 PM
Things are going really well. If you are looking for a good Guild be sure to stop by the site and check us out!

http://dl.thewaterrats.com

Ready
10-30-2005, 10:15 PM
Be sure to get in now before the launch!

Jailbreak
11-01-2005, 03:44 PM
All registered at the site as Smash, now on to the real business.

Who can't wait for SoG so they can cancel another game?

Ready
11-01-2005, 08:40 PM
LOL

I know the feeling... I am down to just a Wow subscription right now though. I used to have 2 others. lol

All:

I would like to welcome our newest members!

Smash
Zaharim
Bedok
Telvannas

Ready
11-03-2005, 04:13 AM
Join us in fighting for the Dark One!

Ready
11-10-2005, 12:01 PM
We as they say the fruit doesn’t fall far from the [wwiiol] tree, and it is especially true in this case… Last month when sent out our mass email notification on the Dark and Light 3CDGAMERS.COM Portal forming some members of the 53rd received this email also due to their correspondence on the site. Amid CRS conspiracy theories (LOL Burma), and a desire to look into something new the guys and gals at the 53rd have decided to join up with TWR in Dark and Light.

With the addition of our brothers in arms from WWII Online we will truly be a force to be reckoned with in the Settlers of Garaneth!

We are also proud to announce that Gilmour will be joining our DnL Leadership, and has already begun work in helping to ensure we are as organized as possible upon release later this month. Gilmour brings a wealth of experience in Guild Leadership from days long ago in UO to present where he serves as the AHC Communications Officer.

Tanzarian
11-11-2005, 03:53 AM
Welcome 53rd!

ShadoMyst
11-11-2005, 02:46 PM
Thankyou for the warm welcome, guys. Those of us who are coming into this game are looking forward to working with you.

My ingame name Will be "ShadowMyst". I am looking into archery/fletchin but there isnt alot of specifics on either right yet. Are we doing any real planning as far as what the guild itself NEEDS at this point, to build and get settled? IE: do we have a weapons maker? Armorer? etc?.. trades that would be a need for any and all of our members.

Jailbreak
11-11-2005, 04:42 PM
I have a tendency to be a crafter, was an architect in swg, tried just about all the different crafting professions there. The problem in swg for me was that every now and then I wanted to go out and kill stuff, and being dbl master crafter left only bunnies on my kill list. Now i can have the best of both worlds.

Vonjustice
11-11-2005, 08:45 PM
(Bump to the top)
Reserved the name Buzzsaw as mine was taken, but unlikely that I'll use that name once DnL comes out, but it will do for The Prequel.

I lean more toward adventuring than crafting although, in EQ1 I was a master at many crafts, as I was in WoW so If im on at odd times, I usually craft if others arent on or needing my help.

Vonjustice(Buzzsaw)

ShadoMyst
11-11-2005, 09:10 PM
I'm playing WoW now.. interim thing to do.

Ready
11-12-2005, 08:28 AM
Hey Shadowmyst,

Make sure you wander over to the Official Guild site...

http://dl.thewaterats.com

BTW what server in WoW are you on? We have a bunch of folks on Archimonde.

Ready
11-12-2005, 08:30 AM
Thankyou for the warm welcome, guys. Those of us who are coming into this game are looking forward to working with you.

My ingame name Will be "ShadowMyst". I am looking into archery/fletchin but there isnt alot of specifics on either right yet. Are we doing any real planning as far as what the guild itself NEEDS at this point, to build and get settled? IE: do we have a weapons maker? Armorer? etc?.. trades that would be a need for any and all of our members.

I have a tendency to be a crafter, was an architect in swg, tried just about all the different crafting professions there. The problem in swg for me was that every now and then I wanted to go out and kill stuff, and being dbl master crafter left only bunnies on my kill list. Now i can have the best of both worlds.

We do need to organize the craftsmen in the Guild... I will poke around and try to come up with some idea of how many crafters we will have.

ShadoMyst
11-12-2005, 02:02 PM
Ready, this is what I get when I follow your link...

" The page cannot be displayed "

Yes I think organizing our characters with whats best for the guild is an idea. I have atleast one crafter in almost all of my previous rpg games. I look at it this way.. what will we need the most as we develop the guild.. armor- weapons- (blacksmithy type character or armorer- weapons crafters type people) We will need folks who can create the things we will need immediately and their skills grow along with our needs. In SWG for instance, you might need a guy who could build a house for you.... in UO you had someone in the guild who could create your armor and weapons.. whether they were bows and arrows or swords, Kryss' and shields or helmets. That guildbrother would either provide the goods to the guildmembers in exchange for materials or for free.. or he would give guildmembers half price. We could have an enchanter to embue the weapons with special powers and abilities. Ofcorse this is my opinion only and I'd like you opinions on the matter. I dont want to create a situation where everyone is working so hard at providing the guild with things it needs that those craftsmen dont have time to enjoy their gamelives..on the otherhand if the guild doesNOT prepare itself properly, we lose everything we build to those that do.. a little planning can go a long way- especially in guildwars etc.
Thoughts?

I play WoW on Greymane primarily but I have a couple characters on one of the new servers.. dang cant think of the name of it at the moment.. its the non pvp server.

Look forward to playing with you guys and would appreciate your thoughts on my ideas, above. Any females in our midst? or am I the only one!?

Ready
11-12-2005, 06:23 PM
oops.. Missed an "r"

http://dl.thewaterrats.com

Ready
11-12-2005, 06:45 PM
ShadoMyst,

You really need to get over to the Guild site  Anyway a really quick reply to the things mentioned above before I dash out the door to work.

The #1 thing you should concern yourself with is having fun! The guild isn’t some institution that needs your time and money to survive. The way we figure it the Guild will do just fine as long and you are having fun.

When you generate your character(s) do so in a fashion that makes you happy. Believe me with 50 other members we will do just fine in covering the bases.

I don’t want the Guild to be Utopia. Instead lets encourage free trade, and the idea of personal success along with that of the groups success. You shouldn’t just be giving your goods and services for free to guild members. In the past we have always worked together to accomplish Guild objectives, but we did this as a volunteer team.

Now in DnL it is my understanding that we will need materials, goods, skills, and money to build and maintain our fortress and or guild hall. In this case we rely on the hype of the activity to carry us through. Nobody wants to be in a Guild without a fortress for example so we plan a “Lets get this sucker built day”, and everybody that participates works towards that goal to speed things up (notice it’s an event, and not a norm of life).

Now I am a firm believer in karma… Remember that when dealing with members of the Guild it can be more rewarding in the end not to try and profit. Everybody needs something from someone else at some point.

When that collection basket comes around throw in a few coins you can afford. Between all of us we will manage to get the bills paid ;)


Crafting / Religion / Warriors / Exploration

I am not going to cover all these here and now… I just wanted to say that once we have everybody on TS for our first town hall meeting we will get an idea of who is going to be what. That may be a good time to get members of those specific areas (especially crafting) to discuss trade skills and what not…

lizardkng
11-12-2005, 09:43 PM
*waves*

Hi mom! :)

Ready
11-12-2005, 09:50 PM
Look forward to playing with you guys and would appreciate your thoughts on my ideas, above. Any females in our midst? or am I the only one!?

I think we have around 5 or 6 women...
[Heads off to the Guild site to hunt down names...]

Ready
11-12-2005, 09:51 PM
*waves*

Hi mom! :)

I can't wait to have the town hall meeting so I can figure out who is related to who... LOL

SlowMoon
11-12-2005, 10:36 PM
Looks like in this game, being a crafter/gatherer won't really effect your fighting skills like some games. (other than the time you spend doing it :)

Without knowing what skills we have as choices....I typically choose to be a armor/weaponsmith type in games. Unless the skill is useless like in some games.

Based on that last info from stractics, looks like we'll be tasked with obtaining, protecting, and delivering materials. I love it.

Ready
11-13-2005, 12:32 AM
[thump]

Look for a Newsletter shortly with some information about TS and what not. ;)

Vonjustice
11-15-2005, 05:22 PM
So, we are planning on having some sort of live meeting??
Will this be teamspeak or chat room type of thing??
I'd be interested in attending, and getting to know everyone.
Thanks

Snorri
11-15-2005, 05:28 PM
My compliments on your guild, I love the Rat logo in gold personally.

Give syou all a rather distinguished look while posting.

Best of luck!

Snorri :barbare:

Ready
11-15-2005, 09:23 PM
Thanks Snorri!

TS Townhall Meeting:

I am finishing the final work on the TS and web post for the site. As soon as that is finished we will set the date and time for the meeting. I am thinking that it will most likely be on this coming Sunday.

More to come...

Also we will be sending out a newsletter with that and other information on it if all goes well.

Ready

Ready
11-16-2005, 08:09 AM
Growing fast! Be sure to get in before launch!

Edwardvi
11-16-2005, 08:12 AM
Check out all the goodies on our site

driddo773
11-16-2005, 04:36 PM
water rats do yee bee pirates? everyone loves them some good pirates..fpsdoug ftw

Ready
11-16-2005, 07:21 PM
Not exactly "Pirates", but in our history we do have a few members with sailing exp.

Best Pirate Voice> "If you be interested in gettin' into t' action with your buckos here, please follow t' link below t' our official Enlistment Thread. Be aye t' register with t' site and post!"

http://dl.thewaterrats.com


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gordeye
11-16-2005, 09:27 PM
Taldren is a pirate of a different kind. You could call him a 'donkey' pirate.

driddo773
11-16-2005, 10:42 PM
Taldren is a pirate of a different kind. You could call him a 'donkey' pirate.
bad donkey:(

blangett
11-16-2005, 11:05 PM
Our numbers are expanding. I am really excited, I think we will have a great guild.

SlowMoon
11-17-2005, 04:21 PM
Yep, we just surpassed 60 members and more are coming. Methinks TS will need many channels :D

Jailbreak
11-17-2005, 05:18 PM
Could get crowded in one room.


"Soon":drool: we'll have a game to playwhile talking it up.

ann-gee
11-17-2005, 05:39 PM
Look forward to playing with you guys and would appreciate your thoughts on my ideas, above. Any females in our midst? or am I the only one!?

Another female here! I'm glad the female numbers are picking up!

SlowMoon
11-17-2005, 08:04 PM
Hehe, you'll have to put up with Hood saying:

I've been denied, I'm looking for some love!

Or whatever that guys says in that movie.

Every time he gets on TS.

LOL!

ShadoMyst
11-18-2005, 12:36 AM
Blangette and I are also female. Glad to meet some of the other girls :)

Superd88
11-18-2005, 02:00 AM
I hope the "beta" will be ready soon....I understand it has had a few setbacks before and was rescheduled...anyone have any info? Or how bout a guess at it??...on another note....will they send an e-mail informing of beta acceptance? I havent heard anything yet.

Ready
11-18-2005, 11:20 AM
They stated there will be an announcement sometime this week. I hope it provides us with a little more info than in the past announcements.

Telvannas
11-18-2005, 06:22 PM
Bumpèd!

Mereset
11-19-2005, 11:05 PM
well am just glad they gave already a dealine and looking forward to play SoG

Ready
11-20-2005, 03:21 AM
I hope they introduce crafting into SoG quickly. PvP is fun and all but part of what interested me the most was the crafting system.

ShadoMyst
11-20-2005, 11:48 PM
Dec 8th

Mereset
11-21-2005, 02:57 AM
I read they are going to use the clickand buy wherevere that is, care to post a link to register.

i looked around a bit i found the link from alzar's post

http://clickandbuy.com/US/en/

Ready
11-21-2005, 05:43 AM
Is this the only method they plan on using? I just really hate having to signup for another paypal like service.

Ready
11-21-2005, 09:17 AM
It'll be a TS meeting :)

I hope to have everything up and running early this week. I will post info on the front page of the site shortly with a date and time. Most likely a Sunday.

Mereset
11-21-2005, 09:35 AM
unfortunately yes is the only method they say it will be use and be carefull some have say here in the forums that this service charge $ 10.00 dollars some say they just frezze that for 3 days to make sure funds are in the account.


What i read at the begining of the page was a FREE 1 one time registration so make sure to read all conditions and fine print.

Mereset
11-22-2005, 05:54 AM
Come checks us out launch is almost here if you are looking for a guild with experienced leadership and a mature dark aligned guild, we could be what you looking for:

http://dl.thewaterrats.com

Mereset
11-24-2005, 07:05 AM
less than 12 hrs for the preorder :)

Jailbreak
11-25-2005, 04:54 AM
I got mine, anyone else in ?

Ready
11-26-2005, 03:27 AM
A whole load of us are in Jailbreak :)

Make sure you swing by the Guild Site and checkout the forums. A lot of interesting info there :)

http://dl.thewaterrats.com

Kahlotus
11-26-2005, 07:30 PM
/bada-bump!!

Kahlotus
11-27-2005, 07:27 PM
If anyone hasn't done so yet, be sure to get your torrent program set up in preparation for the 8th. I've never used one of these before, but I downloaded this one... http://www.bittorrent.com/

Hopefully, I got the firewall thing figured out. :P

Jailbreak
11-28-2005, 10:16 PM
I just dl'd a bt client myself. if you have ever played wow and configured your router for that, you should be ok.

-Smash

Kahlotus
11-29-2005, 05:08 AM
I just dl'd a bt client myself. if you have ever played wow and configured your router for that, you should be ok.

-Smash

Good to know! Tanks brudda! :)

QazX
11-30-2005, 12:27 AM
here is a list of a few clients for people that do not have one:

BitLord (http://www.bitlord.com/) :dnl: About BitLord (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/bitlord)
Bitcomet (http://www.bitcomet.com/) :dnl: About BitComet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/bitcomet)
Azureus (http://azureus.sourceforge.net/) :dnl: About Azureus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azureus)
BitTorrent (http://www.bittorrent.com/) :dnl: About BitTorrent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent)
BitTornado (http://www.bittornado.com/)
ABC (http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/)

and for no reason what so ever...

Tomato Torrent - A Mac Version (http://sarwat.net/bittorrent/) :D :D

Fowarding ports and whatnot to use a torrent client:
clicky (http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm)

just select your router model from the list, then the name of the client. (the major ones are supported but i dont think the less common ones are)

Kahlotus
11-30-2005, 04:07 AM
Good info QazX! Many thanks. :)

QazX
11-30-2005, 07:04 PM
no problem, iv put it on the guild forum aswell incase anyone misses it

Ready
11-30-2005, 10:05 PM
Keep in mind we will be offering exclusive downloads of SoG to members only as soon as it becomes available. ;)

blangett
12-01-2005, 05:20 AM
Keep in mind we will be offering exclusive downloads of SoG to members only as soon as it becomes available. ;)

Pray my DSL will be ready!

Jailbreak
12-01-2005, 03:14 PM
As I used to say in basic, 6 days and a wake-up. Of course now its, 6 days, a wake-up, 10 hrs at work, 3 hrs "paying attention" to my family, a few hours waiting tensely for a dl to finish, 5 minutes logging in and 3 hrs asleep on my computer chair.

I can't wait.