Announcing the DEA

[Matteus]

Ebonlore has already started what makes games like these suck later on. They recruit a mass amount of people to walk over all competition in the beginning of the game. Its not about skill, fun, or competitiveness. They recruit as many new players as they can convincing them that they are an integral part of the guild, they use them and then will ditch them when they are done.
Ebonlore has stated over and over again what thier plans are. Too build the largest army pre-release and roll over all competition in the beginning so they can grab the largest share of land.
Now thats a great tactic if your a noob guild that is only looking to zerg. Most of the time I would brush this aside and not care. But Ebonlore deserves to be in their place.
Light guilds take notice because Ebonlore is the one that will be trying to steamroll you in the beginning.
Dark Guilds take notice because Ebonlore is going to try and dominate the economy and control large swaths of land.
Now this game is large and I have no doubt a couple of months down the road Ebonlore will fall flat on its face. But I dont want to have to deal with their zerg mentalities during those couple of months.

So im proposing the DEA. The DEA stands for Destroy Ebonlore Alliance. I propose that both light and dark guilds join this alliance. The goals of this alliance will be to have a cross faction group of guilds that will stop ANY zerg guild from gaining a foothold in the beginning.

By joining the DEA alliance you commit to doing everything your guild can to stop these initial zergs from gaining a foothold.
I can and will have a forum for the DEA if we need it, provide a Teamspeak server, and any organization it needs to stay in contact so when the time comes we can stop large noob guilds from doing what they do best 'ruin the gaming enviroment'.

If your guild is commited no matter what faction please leave a post below.

[Matteus]

Immortal Brotherhood

Commited to destroying the 'zerg'.

[Rubiade]

LOL, are you serious???

Hehe, very entertaining :D

If you are serious for real, i just can say: don't count us in.

[CaptCrazyJack]

Actually this is quite an interesting development.

An alliance of both Dark and Light to fight against domination of any one guild?

Not saying I support it or not. It's just very interesting. I do admire Matteus though. Very ballsy of ya mate!

Can't wait to see if this develops further.

[MasterBeliar]

Im not sure if your just plain stupid or were dropped on your head as a child. If you really dislike Ebonlore then stop giving them so much attention. This, what you are doing now, is giving them far too much credit. To think an entire alliance needs to be set up to be dedicated to defeating them is ludicrious. Not to mention it would never work. A alliance that has a single ambition of destroying another alliance will never work. I know because I've had several alliances try to do that to me. All failed 100% of the time. Ebonlore will be stiff competition. I know I wont be able to 'sleep at the wheel' as I will when fighting other fights. They arent a super power and you are making yourself look silly trying to give us the idea that they are at the same time trying to say they need to be defeated.

[azkick]

i Approve this thread DOWN WITH ZE ZERG.

/signed

[Matteus]

The alliance is about not letting Zerg guilds get a foothold in the beginning. I dont care what happens 2 months down the road. If you have a guild and under 25 players than you are stupid not to consider what I have offered.

[Helenius]

Ebonlore controlling mass lands...

/laughing

[AndreiLS]

I am interested in such an alliance. I too have proposed a light-sided alliance with a goal to oppose those "zerg"-guilds (but not exclusively zerg-guilds, dark-guilds too) at:
http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=25927
I hate seeing those swarms of noobs running around thinking that they are tough because there guild holds numerous forts, obtained by sending a million weaklings to attack one fort. Small guilds have no chance against the horde even if they are extremely skilled. Skilled players who are part of small guilds deserve to be in a guild that owns a fortress.

[aekeem]

Im not sure if your just plain stupid or were dropped on your head as a child. If you really dislike Ebonlore then stop giving them so much attention.
matteus appears to enjoy riding their jock so its fine if he wants to keep making himself/his guild look like a joke then i guess more power to him.

[Grifon Ebonlore]

Ebonlore has already started what makes games like these suck later on. They recruit a mass amount of people to walk over all competition in the beginning of the game. Its not about skill, fun, or competitiveness. They recruit as many new players as they can convincing them that they are an integral part of the guild, they use them and then will ditch them when they are done.
Ebonlore has stated over and over again what thier plans are. Too build the largest army pre-release and roll over all competition in the beginning so they can grab the largest share of land.
Now thats a great tactic if your a noob guild that is only looking to zerg. Most of the time I would brush this aside and not care. But Ebonlore deserves to be in their place.
Light guilds take notice because Ebonlore is the one that will be trying to steamroll you in the beginning.
Dark Guilds take notice because Ebonlore is going to try and dominate the economy and control large swaths of land.
Now this game is large and I have no doubt a couple of months down the road Ebonlore will fall flat on its face. But I dont want to have to deal with their zerg mentalities during those couple of months.

So im proposing the DEA. The DEA stands for Destroy Ebonlore Alliance. I propose that both light and dark guilds join this alliance. The goals of this alliance will be to have a cross faction group of guilds that will stop ANY zerg guild from gaining a foothold in the beginning.

By joining the DEA alliance you commit to doing everything your guild can to stop these initial zergs from gaining a foothold.
I can and will have a forum for the DEA if we need it, provide a Teamspeak server, and any organization it needs to stay in contact so when the time comes we can stop large noob guilds from doing what they do best 'ruin the gaming enviroment'.

If your guild is commited no matter what faction please leave a post below.

Cute.

However you do not seem to understand the quality and skill level of each individual in this guild. To simply gather our forces and plow over the enemy in zerg fashion is a pure waste of talent.

As the guild grows the application proccess only becomes harder, and no matter how "large" we may become I know we will hold only the best of the best within our ranks.

"They recruit a mass amount of people to walk over all competition in the beginning of the game. Its not about skill, fun, or competitiveness."

Wrong. Skill is everything.

I personally come from DAoC where I led a small group of Eight people, including myself, who regularily killed up towards 60+ enemies at once............ single handedly.

I am not a person to be thrown in a group of 100 others who charge blindly towards an enemy, and that is not what this guild is about. Nor would I be here if I thought it was.

Go ahead and form your "Anti-Ebonlore-Zerg" alliance.

It is when our group of 50 efficiently slaughters your zerg of 200 that you will know what Ebonlore is about.

[Reapox]

What the hell you talking about,

"Killing the Zerg"...


THIS GAME IS ABOUT ZERG!

KINGDOMS WILL BE LOST OVER HUGE BATTLES! NOT 5v5!


NOOB!

[Bakun]

So...in other words... "Build a Zerg, to destroy a Zerg"?

[wrath ebonlore]

I kind of think its a good idea, get all the small guilds in one place so we wont have to spend alot of time hunting em down.
As for just taking everyone we can is just not true. If you would just look at our recruitment forums http://ebonlore.org/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=3 you would see how many people we have turned down for being "casual gamers".
Good luck to you and DEA though. we'll see you in game...


Step into the dark...

[Saintless]

I kind of think its a good idea, get all the small guilds in one place so we wont have to spend alot of time hunting em down.



Shut up.

Who the hell said you could post your mind farts on these boards? like really come on.

Grow up. Ebonlore sucks they make games sucks. No one likes them. In reality perhaps you impress noobs into joining because you are so "Mighty" But really any gamer that has experiance in pvp or PKing knows that you have no skills or backbone and you usally get driven out of games or underground

omgwtfplz2stfukthxbai

[CaptCrazyJack]

/looks through his telescope and says to himself...

I thought Oblivion and Ebonlore kissed and made up?

Don't tell me the truce is already cracking?

[-Strife-]

/looks through his telescope and says to himself...

I thought Oblivion and Ebonlore kissed and made up?

Don't tell me the truce is already cracking?

Did they high five and join powers to create Ebonlivion -- Phear teh noobs?

[CaptCrazyJack]

You muffin men lads should really consider going wanted/criminal.

It's going to be so much fun you'll be singing zippit-do-da out your A-hole!

Don't miss the boat Muffins!

[jrog322]

I think you're flattering them way too much. All you did w/ this post is admit that you believe everything they've been spouting off.

[CaericElRoi]

What the hell you talking about,

"Killing the Zerg"...


THIS GAME IS ABOUT ZERG!

KINGDOMS WILL BE LOST OVER HUGE BATTLES! NOT 5v5!


NOOB!


I think not...Kingdoms will be lost by intrigue, subtlety and assassination. Not just massive battles...

What do you do when your fortress is attacked, your politician is teleported to his fortress, only to be assassinated on his arrival by a cunning hired killer who's been inside the walls for the last 2 weeks spying and leaking info to the attackers? You die...and not because of zerg or massive battle...but because of espionage and intrigue...

[Shadowalker]

I think not...Kingdoms will be lost by intrigue, subtlety and assassination. Not just massive battles...

What do you do when your fortress is attacked, your politician is teleported to his fortress, only to be assassinated on his arrival by a cunning hired killer who's been inside the walls for the last 2 weeks spying and leaking info to the attackers? You die...and not because of zerg or massive battle...but because of espionage and intrigue...
Agreed and good point.

I thought Oblivion and Ebonlore kissed and made up?

Don't tell me the truce is already cracking?
Ah, there was never a truce my dear CrazyJack. Just a lull in the action.

[Helenius]

Ah, there was never a truce my dear CrazyJack. Just a lull in the action.

CCJ have a nice hang of being sarcastic(thats why we love him)...





woot: yet another thread is getting flamed down, /cheers

[Reapox]

This thread sucks...


Guild 1: OMG THEY ARE TOO BIG AND POWERFULL!!
Guild 1: LETS BUILD A BIGGER ALLIANCE AND OWN TEH NOOBS!!

Guild 2: OMG WE ONLY RECRUIT TEH HARDCORZ!! SCREW CAZUALZ!!!
Guild 2: OMG YOU GUYS R TEH SUXOR!!




/sigh

[Wildbill1086]

u know alot of u guys mock matt for this but think about it. Lets say eblorne or what ever its spealt does become the biggest zerg guild. lets say they have 250 accounts. they go into a guild terrotory that has 150 accounts.(im assuming they are all on at the same time), they will be owned now doubt. Now the guildleader of the 150 accounts know this so he calls for the aid of his buddies guild that has 50 accounts. So there 200 agiasnt 250 and they get owned. ppl see this and say hey i wanna join the zerg guild and win. now eblorne is 400 accounts and the biggest guild on the server, taking lands at will. An alliance will be made to rise to fight that. Now this is all speculation but very possible. Zerging guilds will have a big rep if they accomplish alot. Dont think of this as making a zerg alliance to fight a zerg guild. think of it as a zerg defence. Everyone has allies, matt is just offering a big one.

[ScoobX Ebonlore]

Calm down guys. Last time I checked this was still a computer game ;).

I fear the day they decide to start taking out actual players in real life with swords and shotguns to PREVENT THE ZERG! Poor jonny in his first year of college waiting to get laid for the first time slain in his computer chair for joining a guild.


lol okay i'm done

[MasterBeliar]

u know alot of u guys mock matt for this but think about it. Lets say eblorne or what ever its spealt does become the biggest zerg guild. lets say they have 250 accounts. they go into a guild terrotory that has 150 accounts.(im assuming they are all on at the same time), they will be owned now doubt. Now the guildleader of the 150 accounts know this so he calls for the aid of his buddies guild that has 50 accounts. So there 200 agiasnt 250 and they get owned. ppl see this and say hey i wanna join the zerg guild and win. now eblorne is 400 accounts and the biggest guild on the server, taking lands at will. An alliance will be made to rise to fight that. Now this is all speculation but very possible. Zerging guilds will have a big rep if they accomplish alot. Dont think of this as making a zerg alliance to fight a zerg guild. think of it as a zerg defence. Everyone has allies, matt is just offering a big one.


Someone should kick you in the kidney's for bumping this.

[Wildbill1086]

whats that supposed to mean

[Ewle Ebonlore]

Looks like Matty is a bit jealous that someone else had the forethought to realize this game is going to be bigger than any one guild. If guilds hope to ever rule a Kingdom it's going to be a necessity to ally with other like minded guilds.

Yes Ebonlore has a reputation of being ruthless and crushing servers to their knees through careful planning and execution of precise tactics.

Yes we are building up a sizeable guild of accomplished PvPers to reach our goal in D&L of ruling a Duchy.

Yes we have joined together with several other dark PvP guilds to form an alliance called "The Dominion" in hopes of being able to control enough territory to claim a Kingdom!

It's good to see that the light side is going to put up a fight. I assure you it’s no fun when you engage armies more than twice your size and come out winning a swift victory (I like my kills to die slow!).

If you've got large scale PvP experience or have served in previous guilds in a tactical capacity you may have what it takes to serve your Queen!

Step into the Dark...

http://ebonlore.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=6273

[hacksaw]

Small correction ;) The dominion has been around for 2 plus years. We are very well experienced in large scaled pvp. Been doing it for ages now.

If you are a lightie, you better pack a lunch, and put on your ass kissing lips, we'll be walking all over you shortly ;)

[hacksaw]

by the way, i just actually read this thread. Holy jesus christ. I feel dumber for reading it. I'll list several points.

A) Ebonlore, FoE, or any other overambitious guild will not totally dominate one side much less the game. That's idiotic roleplayish carebear stuff. It may seem like that, and that illusion may be intentional, but no guild can stand alone in a game as large as this, especially not a guild that as you put it "Zergs". I'm not saying anything about ebonlore directly, whether they are a zerg guild or not remains to be seen. I think that you are intimidated early on by the people who talk the loudest out of game, and that is sad. The battle for your land is already won as far as I can see, and I don't even strap on my boots. A guild that doesnt even exist ingame yet has already defeated you. You are weaksauce my friend. Pure weaksauce.

B) If your guild isn't strong enough, motivated enough, or disciplined enough to deal with another guild toe to toe, how the hell do you plan to inspire other guilds to do the same? You plan to create a zerg alliance rather than a zerg guild, in which you accept any guild that is willing to hate on the big bad wolf? Hypocricy in it's finest if you ask me.

C) Your guild is Immortal Brotherhood. Sounds like someone who has high standings of Honor in video games, no griefing, and etc. That won't win wars. Sounds like you are envious of someone lacking your inhibitions, and afraid of them on a grand scale. Maybe you should rethink your playstyle, or accept the fact that you are destined to be a mediocre guild in a game full of superpowers.

[BwuceWee]

I just gotta put in my two cents.

I joined up in Ebonlore during the shadowbane days. My name was ChaotiK. I stayed with Ebonlore about a year.

I also gotta say this part before I continue. I am the guy who posted a big ass hate site showing the Ebonlore nasty behind the scenes activities and caused a big fudging mess.

That should tell ya I am not in their guild no more right. And knowing I did all that you guys can know the rest of this post is true.



Ebonlore is the most dedicated group of individuals to ever play a MMO I have ever seen. They don't "zerg". I have never went into a battle with them not knowing the entire strategy. Everything is precisly planned out and executed with as much accuracy as possible.

The leadership, although looked upon as corrupt people who use their guild mates, are the best damn guild leaders and IC I have ever seen.

They put each applicant through a hard to get in application process. They don't allow anybody in under 18 years old. They are all mature people with family, jobs and real lives. They also word together outside of game to prepare.

I don't even remember how many people helped make their bitchen website and awesome sigs. Those sigs were mostly hand drawn by their own members. Fockin sick!


Proof they don't zerg. Read up on EQ2 much? First guild to do mostly everything. Reached all the endgame content first. You can't zerg to do that. That was all precise planning and dedication to being the best.

I am not trying to brag for them. I am not even a part of them. It is just a fact. They did most of the stuff first and held the #1 guild spot worldwide for along ass time.

Didn't large raids on EQ2 get limited to like 40 people? There are plenty of guilds out there who can get well over 40 people on at any time. Why were those guilds not in the end game so fast?

It is because they were just not as good as Ebonlore was with the planning, leadership, and teamwork.

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Also, some words to calm your nerves. In shadowbane after we controlled a very large part of the world on the fear server in the first 2 months... ebonlore had the whole server against them. It made some very awesome wars. Everybody had fun.

Then after Ebonlore pulled out of the game.. the server only took like 1 day to grow into a extremely crowded and overpopulated with cities server.

It was like Ebonlore was not even there.

And this game is SO BIG you won't have to even worry about one guild or alliance controlling everything. You can still build your little private hut or your guilds castle and have fun playing a game. No guild or alliance can controll everything in a game this big.

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So relax guys! Play the game and have fun. It is just a game afterall.

I was once like the origional poster. After I turned traitor and tried to post and do my best to put the hate out on Ebonlore.. you realize after some time that its all pointless. They are just a great group of video game players.

Actually its the guys like us who posted all these hate things that are the immature rejects. How low do you gotta be to try to post hate things about people online who you never met. Its sad and pathetic and that is why I won't be doing it no more.

Maybe yall should step back and look at your self. Your b1tching at a bunch of pixels.

[Wildbill1086]

bruce dude, they didnt zerg in eq2 because eq2 wasnt pvp until the expansion. Regardless of wether or not that guild is a big zergging guild there will be one big one who gets known for it and it wont matter how big ur guild is or how well they do in pvp, the zerg guild will take you. Lets use brave heart as an example. Remember the fight where britian tried to use the irish or what ever agians the scotts. the irish teamed up with the scotts to take out the british mid battle. 2 armys allied to take out a zerging army. There is no dishonor in forming an alliance to protect ppl for a supposed threat. its just a precaution. some of us would rather have an alliance and be wrong, then go into sog without one and be over run and have no one to call for when we need it.