Come to the Light

[Absolution]

As I look at a post telling people to join darkness...the side that will surly lose...I get the feeling that people might be brainwashed by their false statments...If you would like to live in harmony and previel join the light!


No offense to dark players but this had to be posted ;)

[Dondopa]

This had to be posted? Another light being. Heh, <No Comments>

[Ganoth-Ordrin]

As a soldier of the great and majestic Dark brotherhood i shall not let you light run rampant on the soil of dark history(Come into the dark thread was posted first right:Plol)

[Dondopa]

Saying is -- Dark only exsists in light. BUT if thats true, it lives in light so it is a fool, (dont mind me) :casstet:

[Absolution]

lol dont you guys really want it do be a lot of dark vs a little light? wheres the challenge?

[listy]

It's the light side for me! :P

[Dondopa]

[RP]

Listy, shall your body and all of the light beings burn into the eternal fire.

[Rift]

let your soul fall from the sky and suffer in eternal darkness
I SHALL GIVE YOU TO LLOTH!

[Coolvictor]

I would like to join the light because there is light everywhere and there is light inside me and you are right the dark will be defeated by the light in thier own flesh so can i join,

[Keodos]

Yes Sir you can *smiles*

Join our Guild and fight against the Dark ones till they´re dead...

[Tikael]

Saying is -- Dark only exsists in light

well i believe another saying is:
"those who fear the darkness have never seen what the light can do."

i suppose i will go with light.

[Edited on 21/5/2003 by Tikael]

[Shazi]

Absolution, i agree that we need more light... but how would it look like if us darkies asked everyone to join the light???

[blue_fire]

ARGH, so many darkies!!! i feel sooooo sorry for them, its not their fault they joined the wrong side, so ill get this over with: I am not liable for destroying your whole kingdom with my powerful light magic. OK?!

[kronvet]

Light Dark I think I'll go with the ones who can blind people, and everyone knows those panzy goodie goodies don't have the guts to leave their own fortresses. All the more land for me to explore.

p.s. Stan can only complete that which God lets him.....wait a sec Stan?

[Alleyne]

A call to all dwarves - are we going to let the duergar rule? Come to the light! Take up the fight! Defend the right! Abolish night!
Rabkin Rabkinson

[Absolution]

Cool glad to see all these new light people!

[CHILLCYEE]

we are Protectors of the Light, Guardians of the Holy, and Defenders of Justice. Fighting for all that is righteous. The first into battle, the last to retreat, Darkness will never conquer the Light walk with the side of Light.

[Gwulf]

Dark always loose in the end ... did'nt u see the movie

[Shazi]

*BEEEEEP*

Wrong! EVIL always loose in the end, not dark...

[DarkBH]

1st time i have been able to log in but dont let the name fool you i will be light ranger troll that hunts dark for a price thou i dont think ill be light as in holy or nice i just like being on the underdogs side

[Caveo_Eminor]

Darkness allways prefails.. light may pass trough briefly, but it cannot win. Light even creates it's on own pockets of darkness in the shades.

Resistance is futile :P

[Alleyne]

Darkness will only prevail if the Light fails
Let us not allow the Llght to fail
Warriors of Light Arise!
Join the Lords of the Light!
Bring illumination to the land
A Force of Light
No darkness can withstand.

Rabkin the Dwarf

[Edited on 24/5/2003 by Alleyne]

[blue_fire]

Very nice rhyming skills (for a dwarf) :P . Na only kidding, good poem, every single part as true as can be.....
join the dark so you can actually give us a challenge

[Simireor]

I would like to join the light side.

But I don't think we should hate our evil opposite, but love it, cause thats the way the light has to act. :cool:

[VENTURE]

My loyalties are to myself I will follow no self proposed leader and I will never join one side because of strength of numbers. I play to enjoy the game and my enjoyment comes through struggle to attain what and where I want to go.
Till the game goes live I will remain neutral and only then will I choose the underdog ;) till then let the struggle continue.......

OOC at the moment I'm looking at being a member of the forces of Light as they appear to be lacking in numbers but we will see.........
If I could have my first choice it would be a Half-Orc Ranger if not then I will be a Human Ranger. No point in standing out like a sore thumb now is there if I'm one of the underdog's I want to be able to pass as one or the other ;)

[SaInT12]

The Dark side will win! Its only in the movies the light side wins, by luck mostley.

[Capnspiffy]

if i could play..... i would pick light
but, aint that funny, its a closed beta... hmphf

[bedlamite]

:angel: You poor misguided children of the light need some re-education. It is by your actions that our fair Ganareth is being infested by the abominations darring to call themselves 'Braves'. Why can you not see the error of your ways, and why is it you all insist on following like sheep the 'holier than thou' law of those vile High Elves?

:cool: Please hear me, for I wish you no harm: You MUST abandon your distorted ways and views. Continue in the foul pursuit and my fellow members of the dark will be forced to destroy you. You MUST recognize the evil that you so blindly choose to follow and rise up against it. The time is neigh that the rule of the High Elves be brought to an end, and the protection the 'Braves' have enjoyed for to long be abolished.

:dnl: Please come and join us - let the shadows of purification wash over our fair home and make clean all its inhabitants. Justice needs no longer live in the shadows of the light.

[Muthsera]

* Shakes head*

You funny lighties.
You crack me up sometimes.
How I will miss to cut you all whit my cold blade.

Is it not true that some stars dwindle and makes no more light?
And is the wast emptiness of space not dark?
How can your struggle prevail?
But do not give up by all means.
My blade needs blood now and then.

[Anubisss]

As I look at a post telling people to join darkness...the side that will surly lose...I get the feeling that people might be brainwashed by their false statments...If you would like to live in harmony and previel join the light!


No offense to dark players but this had to be posted ;)


Why fear the dark,sooner or later the dark will be your only compantion,like a lovers embrace you shall welcome the dark. :D

[Legolas7821]

.......

[MilkMan557]

Bah, light will win. We have the trained attack monkies on our side! :rolleyes:

[Acaine]

Bah, light will win. We have the trained attack monkies on our side! :rolleyes:

Ah you mean paladins, <sniff> not impressed :p

[Skorpy]

I will pick the Light side... But even tho Dark may win,im not that bothered.

Dark is usually more powerful :)

[Legolas7821]

Dark is usually more powerful :)

Damn straight, don't give up already though.

[nubbins85]

Bah Light is no match for the unstoppable juggernaut that is the DarkSide
Join us the Dark and get 3% off your next purchase at Walmart ! =P

[tymothymichel]

(shakes his head) not this again. when will you understand, there is no light without darkness...and no darkness without light. They are opposite sides of the same coin...and one is no stronger than the other, for to lose one is the distruction of the victor. You will find seeds of darkness in the light, and find glimmers of light in the darkest of nights...all, my friends, are shadows...the wheel will turn as it always does, bringing one to the fore and the other low, only to turn again...watch carefully and you will see this in all things. As a wise man once spoke, "wait long enough by a river, and the bodies of your enemies will come floating past". All things to all people will be...if you wait long enough.

[Invisible_Kid]

The Light/Dark is turning into Star Wars :P

Just reminding that Light doesn't mean Good and Dark doesn't man Bad...

[Teh_Pwnerer]

yo this isnt a movie so we dont know whos going to win , 1 thing is certain if theres no dark vs light it will b no fun , and another thing is certain , as long as there will be players on the light side , there will b players on the dark side , y? cuz maybe some like beeing evil , or others just like compentition so if theres lets say 1k people on light and 500 on dark , the ones who like competition will go to dark.. get it..

[Kleptomaniak]

If light should fail, then i'll be on my knees "hail" as I sip from the holy grail of the dark, consumes more players than a great white shark, with blood spattered teeth, it's a beast, consumed the light priest, that's for keeps. Our knights shine bright in the shroud of darkness, you saw this thread and this post, now mark it, cause this is a prediction of things to come, when you see light comin you'll turn and run. . .Done

Yeeee, that's a verse for all you light haters

[Triar]

Light feeds on energy - Therefore if there was no energy, there would be darkness - Therefore Dark is immortal..

Regards,

Triar.

P.S. What relevance does this have in the RP forums?

[Seerial]

This thread angers me! Not all heros are good. Temptation leads to defeat and all who do not believe this may fall into the shadows with us already in the dark. Your ignorance will be your downfall.

There aren't always fairy tale endings... white does not always end up over red...

So, now that that's been said, who wants some tea?... what?

[The=Joker]

i just want to be a hero in some fashion (a virtual one at best but oh well ;))
I will join the light in its gallant fight against the dark.. we will rule!

[EvlDragonMonkey]

Go right ahead people join the light, all your doing is giving the dark more people to kill.

[Yosho]

I agree, Aye.

[Bhazrak]

Go right ahead people join the light, all your doing is giving the dark more people to kill.

Too true. I welcome the fact that we will be outnumbered.

[Triar]

Too true. I welcome the fact that we will be outnumbered.

As do I, 'cause the gods wold protect us before the lighties :)

Regards,

Triar.

[Drennor]

Well one thing you must remember is that energy/matter will always exist - its a basic principle of conservation or something like that so you cannot lose it completely. That being true, there will always be the posibility of creating light.

When I look up at the sky on a cloudless night, I don't "notice" the black everywhere, I notice the stars, the light. If you wish to be standing out among all others, then join the light side.

On the other hand, evil people are often the most remembered in history. Im sure everyone here knows who Adolf Hitler was. But how many remember the likes of Pasteur or koch. (related to early medicine).

As has been pointed out before though, Light does not mean "good" and dark does not mean "Evil".

That being the case, if a dark player was RPing Good and a Light Player was RPing Good, technically they should both be on the same side - since good is irrelevant to race...

Now somehow I dont see that really being the case - I would assume Dark and Light will always fight...or will they?

Given that I fancy being a Pally though, I'm goin Light. And who say light have to just do "nice" things. Those who serve the light should use its mighty power to destroy the "evil", not hide behind it.

So, lets bring it on!!!!

[Ceara]

The light will prevail !
My battle axe and sword will fortify the city gates.
The hero in me will stand watch over the sleeping beauties in you.
When the horde arrives at the gate , i will thrust my staff into the ground and exclaim YOU SHALL NOT PASS.
when i fall to my death ,I will go knowing that at least 10 fold of the darkside come with me.
let there be light :clap:

[Dead Yeti]

Well I'm probably going to be Dark, why? Mostly because the only races I don't really want to be are both light only, so therefore Dark I will be, but not evil or anything not that dark is evil.

[Telvannas]

Ever heard the question:

"If light travels so fast why is shadow always around it and behind it?"

Entropy is the birth of creation so I'm going a chaotic evil dark elf...

[Vaeros]

Though you proclaim to serve the darkness and profane the light, my friends, I know better... your very eyes betray you!

"Light gives of itself freely, filling all available space. It does not seek anything in return; it asks not whether you are friend or foe. It gives of itself and is not thereby diminished. "

(hrm was hoping to be a slight underdog in terms of population on the light side, but if there is not enough enemies on the dark side, I'm sure there will be guilds that claim to be light that will need... cleansing :) )

[Rosscifer]

p = a3 - 9ab2, l = 3(a2b - b3) then
p2 + 3l2 = (a2 + 3b2)3. therefore
l = b
light = boring

mathmatically proven.

[Ceara]

Both light and dark will be boring , so i will have a light , red , and a dark character

my light and dark characters will only serve my red character

my red will hunt you down like aniamls

Sure the perils are high for reds, but the rewards will also be high.
if its adventure and lots of perils you seek, find ceara in the game she will guide you to the real me.
my friends and I will welcome you into the world of high peril ,and high reward .we will loot and kill and raise hell untill the gods themselves smite us down.
sure let there be light, and let there be dark, more fodder for the sword.
i will post her where abouts on this site when the time is right.
or drop me a line if you want in on the ground floor. before the game starts
both dark and light welcomed into the group
So far 21 have joined us
let there be chaos
both dark and light can worship their false gods and bow to their masters we will have no masters and bow to no one
and take what we feel like
and kill everyone except ourselves of course hehe.
play with your false gods ,just dont venture into nomansland alone lest you want to face your doom.
ill have 2 accounts going and my girlfriend (the real ceara that is )will guide anyone with the will to become a red and the stoutness to play it to the hilt.
sometimes she posts here ,and sometimes I post .both using the same login SO
it may be confusing for some she is sweet and innocent and plans on crafting and staying on the light side and in the homeworld for the most part.
I on the other hand I along with my group will be your dankest of arch enemies and the nightmare that npc hopes to keep bottled up with their god system

if you dare to play with high stakes and lots of perils drop us a line or meet ceara in game
the bandit will maul your mules rob you blind and kill you at the very least
murder for hire is an understatement

[OmegaDarkKnight]

Bah, I have seen how certain light guilds work that sicken me, and some that deserve my praise, overall I will not change sides.

[Ceara]

reds cant have guilds since they will incorparate elements of all the factions
and are wanted people with a price on their heads

if you want excitment knee knocking fun

come join our group of reds
resistance is futile

at least one of your characters ought to be red to at least see what you are missing

no waiting for a lard ass politician to plan for a war we will simply pilage and murdrer on a daily basis be damned the gods
we invite anyone to join our band of thieves and killers
as long as you plan on making the red your main
we don't want partimers that only play their red once a month
as the devs already mentioned the rewards for the reds will be greater then non reds to compensate for the perilous life
probably meaning that they will level faster then non reds

as our fame and notoriety (sp) mounts many will either want to join or hunt us down either way we will be a force to be reconed with

look there another mule train to rob and look it has its master with it ooo more resources for ceara lets get it boys
:snap

[OmegaDarkKnight]

reds cant have guilds since they will incorparate elements of all the factions
and are wanted people with a price on their heads

if you want excitment knee knocking fun

come join our group of reds
resistance is futile

at least one of your characters ought to be red to at least see what you are missing

no waiting for a lard ass politician to plan for a war we will simply pilage and murdrer on a daily basis be damned the gods
we invite anyone to join our band of thieves and killers
as long as you plan on making the red your main
we don't want partimers that only play their red once a month
as the devs already mentioned the rewards for the reds will be greater then non reds to compensate for the perilous life
probably meaning that they will level faster then non reds

yuo do that..........by the way..can yuo target "The Sundered Guard" they hold vast fortunes for you to pillage with 400+ members to rape..(if your into that kind of thing you know?) They also prboably will have the largest castles and ALL the artifacts

[Ceara]

yeah the sundered gaurds will have easy pickings too
just like anyone else they will fall to the blade
if there are more sundered gaurds then it means that they will have more mule trains to pilige and more crafters to kill and more of everything else to pilage and steal

we will hit them where the soft part of their belly is most vulnerable

they will indeed need their gods
so they better start praying now

we wont be a mis managed large mass of dolittles
we will be small tight with conections to all clans and guilds
and to all factions
our mains will be red but our other characters will belong to those guilds
glad you mentioned sundered gaurd ill have to join them for intel for my red
on where exactly that under belly is

you see we are professional reds
10 of us hail from UO the original my rl buddies
11 more have expressed willingness to join us
thats 23
so 23 accounts times 5 = 115 characters of which only 23 are red the rest non reds that are in many of the guilds and most willing if not all to infiltrate more guilds
and will be stand up citizens of the comunity
what you end up is a spy network able to obtain very valuable information for sale that can make alot of people rich fast later in the game
the mules in the mines digging ore even if they are sunder guard mules dont stand a chance nor will their people that venture in small groups

you can have a million weekend warriors it only means lie low on weekends
during the week however most people cant play the few that do will know very well why we will be famous with our names on every poster in the universe your npc players will all die fast your mules wont deliver hard earned ore for crafters and your crafters will be fed up quickly they ever heard of guilds
those guilds that align to do bussiness ( extortion) with will have our blessing
those that mock us will know why we are famous one way or another their
kingdom will pay either by offering rewards for our heads or working with us

as our notoriety rises many will want to join us
the perilous road with the highest reward is the one that promises to offer the most knee knocking fun
we do battle with the very gods themselves
and often loose
when we beat the g - odds
the rewards will be high

for example a simple one
while your resource gatherers are digging 4 hours rl time let say for high grade ore and load up the mules we will take it from them in 3 seconds real life time
multiply that 500 times a week
and you will start to understand why going red isnt an option but a must for many people
no need to pass hours of game time digging holes for ore
our crafters will spend time making things not finding things this will free time for them to either make more or play other characters while still being able to level their characters quicker
lets face it those without reds in their portfolio wont have the same resources to use simple as that

if you want to become a red join us we will have the best of UO reds with us
professionals that know all the tricks

we lay low and hit the weakest places where the most gains are
what will sunder guard do when all their players are in school or at work
and only a few are in the mines looking for high grade ore they will tremble in their boots thats what
so stuned will they be, that they will only watch as they die not even a twitch
will they make not even to call their gods
no different then in UO
bang bang your ore gatherer and his mule is dead and his 4 hoursrl work is ours now
rinse repeat
2 or 3 times a week our raids will fill the holds a plenty
and our other characters will as I mentioned be stand up citizen of the comunity some even high placed in guilds
very high placed

heres a scenario

i have two puters
beside one another I have my 2 gatherers with their empty pack mules waiting by the high grade mine
my red is ready to login the moment i see there are a few over stuffed pack mules around
bang he logs in your 2 mules are mine your gatherers are dead now your charachter is now forced to buy that ore from my vendor in town at a steep price
not only did you waste 4 hours in the mines but you wasted your cash on buying your ore from me

come join me if you want big rewards
pay the price of not knowing what its all about


languish in the mines your toil is my reward

ill have more ore and other goodies probably the odds are that sunder guard will contribute more then their fair share of that loot

simply camping a resouce spot and taking it from the people 3 times a week untill we all have our mules full
is only the begining we have better plans for the future
when our characters have leveled up

that I cant discuss here
but can say this if you dont have one of your characters with us you are on the slow train

[OmegaDarkKnight]

DId you HAVE to mention part of your plan to them?

AND PLEASE LEARN TO USE PUNCTUATION!!! You will kill everyone before the game starts otherwise, or blind them.

[Ceara]

the path is before you ,yet you do not comprehend !

[OmegaDarkKnight]

I comprehend the path, I just don't comprehend your saying all your plans where everyone can read them.

[TrueAceBlade]

His bad grammer prevents anyone from reading it, therefore, no one will know. bwhahahaha... ha...

[OmegaDarkKnight]

His bad grammer prevents anyone from reading it, therefore, no one will know. bwhahahaha... ha...

I had a feelnig that was the case........

[jrog322]

the light is hopeless...all will come to darkness and ruin.

[Kisimir]

As I look at a post telling people to join darkness...the side that will surly lose...I get the feeling that people might be brainwashed by their false statments...If you would like to live in harmony and previel join the light!


No offense to dark players but this had to be posted ;)

Thats a pretty weak speach there... Deffinitaly no william wallace.

I am all for the light but that left even me wondering if I was correct.

[jrog322]

Thats a pretty weak speach there... Deffinitaly no william wallace.

I am all for the light but that left even me wondering if I was correct.

you don't know the power of the dark side!...join us and rule the gal...err world.

[Vaeros]

Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate...well you know the rest.. So don't be afraid join the light. remember to bring at least spf 30

[Egypt]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

ReVeAL

[alex420]

Aye... if you join the dark side you may live longer... you may live till the day your body cannot hold your breath anymore... but at that instant... at that single moment of stepping through hell's burning stoney gates... wont you wish you could trade it all? WONT YOU WISH YOU COULD GO BACK TO THIS DAY? WONT YOU WISH YOU COULD GO BACK AND JOIN THE PASSION OF EARTHKINDS AS THEY FIGHT FOR THE WORLD THEY BUILT?

The world you built?

the step you choose to take is up to you... Run and use fear and hate as a weapon for the path to greatness is the hard one and the one of light.
So choose as you will, but remember they can take our lives, our homes and our blood... but they will never take... OUR FAITH!

from soon to be acquired caracter(does it show i cant wait??): "Whitestrike"

a bit more "wallace" for the good cause!

[Lucky Grin]

Well.. our guild is dark-alligned, though none of us really care 'bout the side, as long as we can kill as many as possible :) I'll PK u all :D

[OmegaDarkKnight]

Well.. our guild is dark-alligned, though none of us really care 'bout the side, as long as we can kill as many as possible :) I'll PK u all :D

This sounds so reassuring...

[Nightblighter]

there needs to be a pink side, DnLpP (dark and light plus pink)

[Egypt]

Like your style Invisble Kid

"Nods"

Egypt

[Athene]

Dark shall be my guide.

[Athene]

As I look at a post telling people to join darkness...the side that will surly lose...I get the feeling that people might be brainwashed by their false statments...If you would like to live in harmony and previel join the light!


No offense to dark players but this had to be posted ;)

I am looking forward into crossing you...

[AchillesEOD]

As I look at a post telling people to join darkness...the side that will surly lose...I get the feeling that people might be brainwashed by their false statments...If you would like to live in harmony and previel join the light!


No offense to dark players but this had to be posted ;)

No please we darkies would love for you to goto the light. We need more targets to kill... :)

[OmegaDarkKnight]

No please we darkies would love for you to goto the light. We need more targets to kill... :)

Can you go light also?

[Bayab]

Auughh... not again! World of warcraft was torn to pieces by faction imbalance! WHEN DO PEOPLE LEARN! *beat head against keyboard* And for a famous, witty, and well placed movie quote!

No! Ill never join you!

[need4weed]

Can you go light also?

HAHA you owned him

[yamisamre]

(shakes his head) not this again. when will you understand, there is no light without darkness...and no darkness without light. They are opposite sides of the same coin...and one is no stronger than the other, for to lose one is the distruction of the victor.
Mmm well one side would always have more players than the other...and the dark looks like it has more right now....however, i HaTe dark/evil/horde(Warcarft w/e)/etcetcetc landscape....eewwwwwww

FOR THE LIGHT!!

(of course having less light improves my chance of being picked for beta =P)

Llowalyn, Wood Elf (...human?) Illusionist <when i get into beta!!!!!!!!>

[need4weed]

I dont think picking light will increase your chances of beta and there is no point in picking light just because you want beta.

[shmeeb]

I think I'm gonna be Dark but lean towards neutral/outlaw because I wanna be an assassin rogue!

[Kaymen Elfmage]

Bah! Look at all these lighties! Flocking together, preaching against the darkness, insideous to the fact that they stand no chance. I Kaymen Elfmage will personally bring to you the utmost Pain and suffering thou have ever dreamt of! Gothar himself the gods of gods wont even be able to protect you from the wrath you will endure from myself and brothers in arms. * Eerie Chuckle*

[Feyn]

Saying is -- Dark only exsists in light. BUT if thats true, it lives in light so it is a fool, (dont mind me) :casstet:

This whole statement is completely false. Dark is not in the least dependant on light, but one could say this or the opposite ( light only existing in darkness) out of an ignorant personal view of things. That said, second statement is equally wrong, Dark doesn't "live" anyway and naming a concept like that a "fool" as if it is a sentient being completely proves your lack of understanding of the concept of dark and light.

[Feyn]

The light will prevail !
My battle axe and sword will fortify the city gates.
The hero in me will stand watch over the sleeping beauties in you.
When the horde arrives at the gate , i will thrust my staff into the ground and exclaim YOU SHALL NOT PASS.
when i fall to my death ,I will go knowing that at least 10 fold of the darkside come with me.
let there be light :clap:


In the vast expanses of the universe there is no light , cold void and darkness are prevalent. There are suns weakly illuminating a tiny amount of space around them but even they are doomed to end in what is only a moment in the passage of time. You may cling to your fortresses and cities , but an infinity before the end of things you will be extinguished as a candle in a winter night, only to suffer the same fate when the world is reborn.

[joshinator]

ha how i chuckle it is evedent that you have been brain washed by the light it has blinded ur judgement for the tru peace of body and mind lies in the mist of the dark i shed a tear for thse who are lost in the light for we are all born frree and light wishes u to join a uniform of false laws i tell set ur soul free join dark and u will no the meaning of happiness

[Lisan Al'Gaib]

As my signiture says, it is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.

Darkness is said to be the absense of light and as people have said light needs something to fuel it, fuels are used and will run out. Therefore eventually all that would be left is darkness. However, light can be reflected and the smallest sunbeam can create a large area of light. But that sunbeam will eventually be extinguished.

Also people have said light fills every corner. No, it can only push the dark back so much, there will always be things obstructing the passage of light and darkness will be there waiting.

also remember a quote from somewhere, went something like this.
No matter how fast light travels, darkness will always be there waiting for it.

I intend to play dark anyway, but that is based on the information about each side, you lighties are bound by doctrine and an opprseive (yet apparently extremely free) goverment. Not for me thanks.

[Fagercraft]

Bah! Look at all these lighties! Flocking together, preaching against the darkness, insideous to the fact that they stand no chance. I Kaymen Elfmage will personally bring to you the utmost Pain and suffering thou have ever dreamt of! Gothar himself the gods of gods wont even be able to protect you from the wrath you will endure from myself and brothers in arms. * Eerie Chuckle*

Big words,boy. I hope your action will be atleast half as big as you claim, or else you will be but a mere stepping stone in my path if your gonna cross the the path i walk. Let it be known that path of the light will not be stopped by some mere words, anyone who tries will be sent to the otherside painfully, even if its heaven or hell I'll make sure it will be along way there, a long painful road.

*kekekeke...*

(daam, i want this game now! And i still hope theyll let us communicate with the otherside hehe, roleplaying smacktalk FTW!)

[Cerath]

Big words,boy. I hope your action will be atleast half as big as you claim, or else you will be but a mere stepping stone in my path if your gonna cross the the path i walk. Let it be known that path of the light will not be stopped by some mere words, anyone who tries will be sent to the otherside painfully, even if its heaven or hell I'll make sure it will be along way there, a long painful road.


Talk is cheap, but it works... I would just let you pass, should you be too arrogant. I would still let you pass. But after I got home, I would give your description to the most skilled of assassins, and give him a note. To say hello to your family, with the rest of your bodyparts...

-Thalos Winterspring-

[MetalicSandX]

I will be neutral for now. ;)













:hothead:

[SentryIII]

Between the two forces of dark and light, it is a known fact that light always shines through the dark. Dark hides in the corners, behind objects, and always shows its ugly face in your shadow. The only time darkness can win is when theres nothing left for light to find. Ultimately darkness will enevitably win, but untill that moment I will stand in the light to reflect its infinite glory!

[MetalicSandX]

Ultimately darkness will enevitably win

:dance: :dance: :dance:

[Ryahask]

pfft, why do you think dark hides from the light, light will never lose

[SentryIII]

:dance: :dance: :dance:

Oh dont be too happy, thats a long, long, looong time from now...

:D

[ozzoright]

As I look at a post telling people to join darkness...the side that will surly lose...I get the feeling that people might be brainwashed by their false statments...If you would like to live in harmony and previel join the light!


No offense to dark players but this had to be posted ;)

I will go to the LIGHT!!!

[Falcons]

Light is full of lies and deceit, Only the dark tells it how it is.. They say they are out to stomp the evil, but yet they force you to do there will it's called "helping". They say they will protect you and help you but do you ever see them.

The ultimate truth of light is a lie, They say its the fastest thing in the universe. But if thats true why is darkness always there first to meet it.

Don't believe in the lies. come join us in the darkness.

[arieste]

Dark is the teacher.
Light is the reward for being a good student.

I will choose those that see themselves as the half of the other, not their opposite.

a.

[MetalicSandX]

Oh dont be too happy, thats a long, long, looong time from now...

:D

The end is what matters the most... So you will be fighting a lost cause.

;)

[Sir Arjuno]

Rofl, this reminds me of a theory my old physics teacher had. He called it the "Dark Sucker" theory lol. The main idea was that lightbulbs and stars didn't give off light, they sucked in dark. Once they were full of dark, they burnt out. Dark is faster (or as fast can't remember) than light because it disappears quickly when light is let into a room. Dark has mass and weighs more than light, which is why it is sinks to the bottom of bodies of water.

And yes, I laughed as hard at the post I read like this as when my teacher first told me.

[Mitra]

The Light is the most superior power of order. All who oppose it serve disorder, and must be corrected!

All life should serve as agents of order. Disorderly life hastens entropy. Therefore, life which heeds no civilized law must be corrected.

One alone can change nothing. Only as part of the group may one change the universe. We are stronger together than separate.

[Lisan Al'Gaib]

The Light is the most superior power of order. All who oppose it serve disorder, and must be corrected!

All life should serve as agents of order. Disorderly life hastens entropy. Therefore, life which heeds no civilized law must be corrected.

One alone can change nothing. Only as part of the group may one change the universe. We are stronger together than separate.


I disagree

Chaos breeds change, Order breeds Stagnation

"a person needs new experiences. They jar something deep inside, allowing him to grow. Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken."
A quote from Dune by Frank Herbert.

Order is the enemy of change, Chaos is ever changing, i would prefer a world of chaos than a world of order

[illidanII]

light fear dark,darkness brings revolution and change.

[illidanII]

I disagree

Chaos breeds change, Order breeds Stagnation

"a person needs new experiences. They jar something deep inside, allowing him to grow. Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken."
A quote from Dune by Frank Herbert.

Order is the enemy of change, Chaos is ever changing, i would prefer a world of chaos than a world of order

so i guess ur an islamic fanatic then?

[Sir Arjuno]

As long as we are getting poetic...
It's true: Good, Light, Darkness, and Evil are all very different things.

Light and Darkness are forces of nature, and each bring both creation and destruction.

Light brightens the sky, hiding the heavens and exalting the creation in our world. It is like fire, giving warmth, but burning all it touches.

Darkness, adversely, shrouds the earth (or in this case, Ganareth), and exalts the heavens in all their glory. It is like wind, bringing the cold, but also carrying with it the seeds of new life.

Good and evil are words used to describe the intentions and acts of beings.
They generally coincide with the forces of creation and destruction, respectively (though both sides will use both forces at some point).

In DnL I will be affliated with the Light side, but I will create a guild that champions the common good, and combats evil (not necessarily the side of dark).

So there you have it. Looks like I've got my work cut out for me.

Both are necessary, and only through their delicate balance can progress happen. So enough of this random (darkness is cooler) nonsense.

[Lisan Al'Gaib]

so i guess ur an islamic fanatic then?

not in the least, i follow no religion, or pretty much anything, so i don't believe i can be a fanatic of anything much. It is however opinions like that which would make me want to kill you in a game, might i inquire as to which side you intend to play so i can be tempted to join the other? Nevermind i see from your profile that you are dark, my loyalties are severely tested.

Just because i would prefer something does not mean i would act on it. If you prefered a car someone which belongs to someone else, would you go and steal it? I highly doubt it.

[Jaqally]

Light is order, obedience, loyalty. Following rules. The dark is about chaos, so called freedom, basically it's people who don't want to follow rules and doing whatever they feel like, regardless of others.

"Chaos breeds change, Order breeds Stagnation"No. Chaos breeds people ripping off the weak. People doing what they want despite what would be best for society as a whole. Seeing something and taking it. Order brings peace. If everyone follows the rules, then we have no criminals, everything goes as it should.

"Order is the enemy of change, Chaos is ever changing, i would prefer a world of chaos than a world of order."
Chaos is ever changing because you can not have anything stable when a bunch of people are just out for themselves. Order can have change, if it is proven to be beneficial to the whole. Beneficial to the whole you are a part of, whether that whole is a good or bad thing is not the point.

I am sick of people choosing Light because they think it is Good. I am sick of people choosing Dark because they think it is Evil.

[Sir Arjuno]

Light is order, obedience, loyalty. Following rules. The dark is about chaos, so called freedom, basically it's people who don't want to follow rules and doing whatever they feel like, regardless of others.

"Chaos breeds change, Order breeds Stagnation"No. Chaos breeds people ripping off the weak. People doing what they want despite what would be best for society as a whole. Seeing something and taking it. Order brings peace. If everyone follows the rules, then we have no criminals, everything goes as it should.

"Order is the enemy of change, Chaos is ever changing, i would prefer a world of chaos than a world of order."
Chaos is ever changing because you can not have anything stable when a bunch of people are just out for themselves. Order can have change, if it is proven to be beneficial to the whole. Beneficial to the whole you are a part of, whether that whole is a good or bad thing is not the point.

I am sick of people choosing Light because they think it is Good. I am sick of people choosing Dark because they think it is Evil.

I agree completely (as you have probably seen in my last post). Good, Evil, Light, and Darkness can involve any balance of creation and destruction. In fact, it is an illusion to view creation and destruction as separate forces. They are really part of a single power...the power of change...growth, progress. It's all relative.

[Lisan Al'Gaib]

Light is order, obedience, loyalty. Following rules. The dark is about chaos, so called freedom, basically it's people who don't want to follow rules and doing whatever they feel like, regardless of others.

"Chaos breeds change, Order breeds Stagnation"No. Chaos breeds people ripping off the weak. People doing what they want despite what would be best for society as a whole. Seeing something and taking it. Order brings peace. If everyone follows the rules, then we have no criminals, everything goes as it should.

"Order is the enemy of change, Chaos is ever changing, i would prefer a world of chaos than a world of order."
Chaos is ever changing because you can not have anything stable when a bunch of people are just out for themselves. Order can have change, if it is proven to be beneficial to the whole. Beneficial to the whole you are a part of, whether that whole is a good or bad thing is not the point.

I am sick of people choosing Light because they think it is Good. I am sick of people choosing Dark because they think it is Evil.

What i mean by Order doesnt bring change is, the people in power stay in power or relatively near power, and they can easily ignore what everyone else wants, they control where the changes occur to benefit them and theirs, not the world as a whole, e.g. the old lower class, middle class and upper class system, the upper class stayed rich and upper class, the middle class may get lucky and marry off a son or daughter to the upper class and the workers, well they were poor and most likely going to stay that way. mainly peasent revolts lead to change, thus chaos breeds change. Order keeps the same system going over and over, maybe a few tweakings every now and then, thus it leads to stagnation. It would take Chaos to create a new order, thus they are both neccessary i agree with that, but its a cycle, out of chaos, order is formed, over time, order stagnates, people get unhappy, revolt, chaos begins, eventually leading to a new form of order.

If you hadnt noticed a lot of people in the world currently are out for themselves. I have no illusions about how willing i or many people i know would be to die for our country or goverment, much less a religion if we followed one.

also light and dark are not as black and white as you put at the start. Light is representative of Order, yes, but not the holy correct order that you seem to believe. Dark, well yes they mentioned that individual strength is a large part, but they also rid themselves of troublesome people, thus there are rules, and if you break them you become wanted just as easily as with the light side, and with the high population of necromancers who apparently turn lazy workers into slaves of their will, well i dont think they have much choice as to following orders, therefore that aspect of obedience and loyalty doesnt really apply too much. Serve or die, then serve anyway. Admittedly that is selfish.

As to Light/Dark being Good/Evil, i never made that mention anywhere, i have said they are neither, i choose dark because it is what suits me, as my posts have shown.

[FableSide]

fear the dark ! light boys !, where it is dark no light can live !!!

[Mitra]

:eek: :eek:

[Jaqally]

Are you talking ingame or in real life????? It seems like you are switching back in forth. So, um, no clue what you are getting at.

I for one am only speaking of in game. if you are too, let me know so I can respond to this...


What i mean by Order doesnt bring change is, the people in power stay in power or relatively near power, and they can easily ignore what everyone else wants, they control where the changes occur to benefit them and theirs, not the world as a whole, e.g. the old lower class, middle class and upper class system, the upper class stayed rich and upper class, the middle class may get lucky and marry off a son or daughter to the upper class and the workers, well they were poor and most likely going to stay that way. mainly peasent revolts lead to change, thus chaos breeds change. Order keeps the same system going over and over, maybe a few tweakings every now and then, thus it leads to stagnation. It would take Chaos to create a new order, thus they are both neccessary i agree with that, but its a cycle, out of chaos, order is formed, over time, order stagnates, people get unhappy, revolt, chaos begins, eventually leading to a new form of order.

If you hadnt noticed a lot of people in the world currently are out for themselves. I have no illusions about how willing i or many people i know would be to die for our country or goverment, much less a religion if we followed one.

also light and dark are not as black and white as you put at the start. Light is representative of Order, yes, but not the holy correct order that you seem to believe. Dark, well yes they mentioned that individual strength is a large part, but they also rid themselves of troublesome people, thus there are rules, and if you break them you become wanted just as easily as with the light side, and with the high population of necromancers who apparently turn lazy workers into slaves of their will, well i dont think they have much choice as to following orders, therefore that aspect of obedience and loyalty doesnt really apply too much. Serve or die, then serve anyway. Admittedly that is selfish.

As to Light/Dark being Good/Evil, i never made that mention anywhere, i have said they are neither, i choose dark because it is what suits me, as my posts have shown.

[GuyE]

I chose light not because its the supposed good (though it is not good) but after going through all the guilds I found one I truly liked and felt would be a great fit for me. I see the same as Mitra on this.

My character will be honorable he can love but that does not mean im fighting for justice or all things right.

[Lisan Al'Gaib]

Are you talking ingame or in real life????? It seems like you are switching back in forth. So, um, no clue what you are getting at.

I for one am only speaking of in game. if you are too, let me know so I can respond to this...

a bit of both, first two parts are examples from real life, 2nd two parts are from the game.

[Jaqally]

light and dark are not as black and white as you put at the start. Light is representative of Order, yes, but not the holy correct order that you seem to believe. Dark, well yes they mentioned that individual strength is a large part, but they also rid themselves of troublesome people, thus there are rules, and if you break them you become wanted just as easily as with the light side, and with the high population of necromancers who apparently turn lazy workers into slaves of their will, well i dont think they have much choice as to following orders, therefore that aspect of obedience and loyalty doesnt really apply too much. Serve or die, then serve anyway. Admittedly that is selfish.

As to Light/Dark being Good/Evil, i never made that mention anywhere, i have said they are neither, i choose dark because it is what suits me, as my posts have shown.

This thread and the other thread I am posting in (http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=22187) are running together lol. So I think I will add a few points from there... :)

According to the lore of Ganerath,
Dark uses Destructive Power.
Light uses Creative Power.

It will be easier for Dark to slip into evil, because of the power it is yielding is destructive, but that does not mean they ARE evil. They just have to work harder to not be. And just because of all that, does not mean Light is good. Light can still be evil, as it likes order and lawfulness and obedience, which can very easily be abused and be evil. It is more about the people choosing how they choose to act, the guild's interpreting the different paths and then sticking to it.

For me, Dark serves chaos and disorder, all the things that are hateful to Light. Light can be Evil.... but it can't ever be chaos and disorder.

If one is evil it doesn't necessarily mean they don't strive for an ordered society. A community of those with evil beliefs can be just as close knit as any other IMO.

I am of the mind that there is evil in both a true free society and a lawful ordered society. Both, the powerful will take advantage of the weak. Both will have bad people. Both will have good people. Both will have suffering and happiness. People just need to choose which one more suits there mind. If you like goodness, is it better to value free-will or law? If you like evil, is it better to have laws and rules that you dictated and enforce no matter what, or to have no laws so you can do whatever you want?

There is no right or wrong in that way, but... in game and 90% of the time here (except when I am being philosophical), I am Light, and will condemn all that follow the Dark path to a slow and tortuous death. :D

Oh and I value your opinion and enjoy your words Lisan, and look forward to crossing swords with you some day. :)

[Death Song]

Edited for lack of purpose

[Kciroj]

Light players can be Lawful Evil, and Dark players can be Chaotic Good, for example

But as Good cannot exist without Evil, Light cannot be without Darkness, and vice versa...

[Lisan Al'Gaib]

According to the lore of Ganerath,
Dark uses Destructive Power.
Light uses Creative Power.

It will be easier for Dark to slip into evil, because of the power it is yielding is destructive, but that does not mean they ARE evil. They just have to work harder to not be. And just because of all that, does not mean Light is good. Light can still be evil, as it likes order and lawfulness and obedience, which can very easily be abused and be evil. It is more about the people choosing how they choose to act, the guild's interpreting the different paths and then sticking to it.

Oh and I value your opinion and enjoy your words Lisan, and look forward to crossing swords with you some day. :)

You make good points, there must be balance in all things, extremes of each will only lead to trouble.

I have read the lore, i know that darkness is more empowered toward destruction and light towards creation, but i am a druid and work with nature to keep all things in balance. Due to my druidic nature i cannot promise you a sword fight, but should we encounter one another we shall see how my magic and staff will fare.

I have enjoyed our discussion, thank you.

[Brave Starr]

What is the difference between the Light and the Darkness?

For sure the creatures of the darkness must blind in the Light of the eternal wisdom of creation which principle is driven by one ideal = Love like Light that cures the pain of the sick and warms the heart of the hopeless.

Light is all we are able to see in surrounding Darkness...

[Jaqally]

What is the difference between the Light and the Darkness?

For sure the creatures of the darkness must blind in the Light of the eternal wisdom of creation which principle is driven by one ideal = Love like Light that cures the pain of the sick and warms the heart of the hopeless.

Light is all we are able to see in surrounding Darkness...

Yuck, it's attitudes like this that make me want to kill.

Just because Light uses constructive magic, does not mean they are all lovey and warm fuzzy's. Creation is not driven by love. Where on Ganerath did you get THAT idea???

I am Light. I will do my best to make my guild the best. I will follow my leaders command with fierce loyalty. I will protect my family with determination and pride. That does not mean that I believe in everything you just said. If someone hurts those I call my own, they will see vengeance and hate like nothing they have ever seen before. There will be no mercy or love or warm fuzzies. I respect other people who follow the Light because they have chosen to follow the same path I believe. But that does not mean that I agree with their reasons.

Those who think that 'Light = love and warmth etc and Dark is blinded by their ideals', are blind themselves - to other points of view. People like this are just as bad as the people saying they are dark cause they are evil.

[Drax26]

Its like when I walk in all the shadows just leave :)

[Brave Starr]

Yuck, it's attitudes like this that make me want to kill.

Just because Light uses constructive magic, does not mean they are all lovey and warm fuzzy's. Creation is not driven by love. Where on Ganerath did you get THAT idea???

I am Light. I will do my best to make my guild the best. I will follow my leaders command with fierce loyalty. I will protect my family with determination and pride. That does not mean that I believe in everything you just said. If someone hurts those I call my own, they will see vengeance and hate like nothing they have ever seen before. There will be no mercy or love or warm fuzzies. I respect other people who follow the Light because they have chosen to follow the same path I believe. But that does not mean that I agree with their reasons.

Those who think that 'Light = love and warmth etc and Dark is blinded by their ideals', are blind themselves - to other points of view. People like this are just as bad as the people saying they are dark cause they are evil.


U don`t sound like a beholder of the Virtue of Light.

But u call the Light path as the decision of ur own.

Why have u chosen the path of the Virtues?

Do u want to bring light to the world or kill the virtues that won`t accept the wrong signs in the minds of its children.

U sound like u never seen what Darkness is made for, u sound like u never really seen the Light!

U are no convinced follower of the Light, maybe u are a person with a citizenship for the side of Light, but those who doubt the Light and dress up the Dark will suffer in Darkness.
They will suffer till the Glory of Light wins eternity against the Darkness - then Light and only the Light will remain in the people golden hearts.

[Zeral]

Dark and light are just different kind of mana, means to an end. A true cause can only come from the gods

Embrace Agnar! Realize that he is the one true god. Join us or be cut down and sent to his realm.

There is no escape
No one can escape the god of death!

My blade will forever serve him.

[Brave Starr]

Gothar the origin of everything.
He created Ganareth, and gave it the sun,
to repel Darkness for eternity.
Then, he gave birth to nine gods, born from his essence. He gave each god a kingdom.
But soon, the young gods, who wanted to be worshiped...

Praise Gothar who gave birth to all but the existing Darkness.
Praise Gothar who gave the darkness the possibility to ascend to the Light.
Praise Gothar by respecting his means - he gave the Light to all his children.

Enlighten those who dare to choose the wrong path - they will descent to suffer what they deserve in Darkness.


/edit:00c: The real difference between Light and Dark is negative Destruction leading into Darkness, which is the nothingness Gothar enlighted with his own, but not the origin of or from Gothar.
Light is Gothar itself impersonated through all the positive Meanings of all the Gods under his glorious Sign, even Destruction may be helpful to build the Light!

[Jaqally]

U don`t sound like a beholder of the Virtue of Light.

But u call the Light path as the decision of ur own.

Why have u chosen the path of the Virtues?

Do u want to bring light to the world or kill the virtues that won`t accept the wrong signs in the minds of its children.

U sound like u never seen what Darkness is made for, u sound like u never really seen the Light!

U are no convinced follower of the Light, maybe u are a person with a citizenship for the side of Light, but those who doubt the Light and dress up the Dark will suffer in Darkness.
They will suffer till the Glory of Light wins eternity against the Darkness - then Light and only the Light will remain in the people golden hearts.

Path of Virtues? bah. Light is not virtue. Virtue is for the weak. Next you will be speaking of mercy, and justice. Do you grant your enemies such gifts? The followers of Dark just have to ask you for forgiveness and you bow down? Believe that they have forsaken their old life and will change? I will never betray the Light in such a way. Death to all that choose the wrong path. Death to all who use any such destructive magics. There is no coming back, no justice, no mercy for the enemy.

Strength lies in rules and obedience and loyalty to those you serve. I do serve the Light, I use constructive magic and leave the destruction to my blade. Those that deserve so, will die. Light is Way It Should Be, and we shall persevere against all who stand against us. I do not have a golden heart, I have a silver heart, made of blinding light, with no weakness such as forgiveness and mercy tainting me for my enemy to use. There is only feirce determination to do what one must to end the enemy's corruption.


Gothar the origin of everything.
He created Ganareth, and gave it the sun,
to repel Darkness for eternity.
Then, he gave birth to nine gods, born from his essence. He gave each god a kingdom.
But soon, the young gods, who wanted to be worshiped...

Praise Gothar who gave birth to all but the existing Darkness.
Praise Gothar who gave the darkness the possibility to ascend to the Light.
Praise Gothar by respecting his means - he gave the Light to all his children.

Enlighten those who dare to choose the wrong path - they will descent to suffer what they deserve in Darkness.

You are so close to a true Light believer, until you speak of Enlightenment to the Dark. You speak of such folly and call yourself a true follower of Light? You will be the way for Darkness to creep back into the world after we have vanquished it. There is no room leniency. Death to all betrayers.


Dark and light are just different kind of mana, means to an end. A true cause can only come from the gods

Embrace Agnar! Realize that he is the one true god. Join us or be cut down and sent to his realm.

There is no escape
No one can escape the god of death!

My blade will forever serve him.

But you must choose a path, regardless of your God. Or will you be neutral, hiding in the shadows from both sides? Do not fear, you will meet your God soon if this is the case.

* Hel, Ysatis and Aesir wished to be true to Gothar’s spirit; (Good)
* Hydra, Neutra and Zephyr refused to voice their opinion; (Neutral)
* Malecta, Agnar and Calder turned away from Gothar’s spirit. (Evil)

* Aesir, Zephyr and Calder would remain faithful to Gothar’s soul; (Lawful)
* Ysatis, Neutra and Agnar kept silent (Neutral)
* Hel, Hydra and Malecta denied Gothar’s soul. (Chaotic)

Gothar's spirit is goodness, and his soul is lawfulness.

[Brave Starr]

Path of Virtues? bah. Light is not virtue. Virtue is for the weak. Next you will be speaking of mercy, and justice. Do you grant your enemies such gifts?


The only enemy that deserve to experience the Virtues of the Rightous are those willing to understand.

Everyone is able to see Gothars Light by simply looking up to the sun created by him!


The followers of Dark just have to ask you for forgiveness and you bow down? Believe that they have forsaken their old life and will change? I will never betray the Light in such a way. Death to all that choose the wrong path. Death to all who use any such destructive magics. There is no coming back, no justice, no mercy for the enemy.


They don`t have to ask me for forgiveness - they have to kneel down in front of the Creator of the Light!



Strength lies in rules and obedience and loyalty to those you serve. I do serve the Light, I use constructive magic and leave the destruction to my blade. Those that deserve so, will die. Light is Way It Should Be, and we shall persevere against all who stand against us. I do not have a golden heart, I have a silver heart, made of blinding light, with no weakness such as forgiveness and mercy tainting me for my enemy to use. There is only feirce determination to do what one must to end the enemy's corruption.

U forgot ur own words?

Path of Virtues? bah. Light is not virtue. Virtue is for the weak. Next you will be speaking of mercy, and justice. Do you grant your enemies such gifts?

Rules u follow...

Rules are for the citizens, Virtues are for the Enlightened.



You are so close to a true Light believer, until you speak of Enlightenment to the Dark. You speak of such folly and call yourself a true follower of Light? You will be the way for Darkness to creep back into the world after we have vanquished it. There is no room leniency. Death to all betrayers.


Don`t worry about the strength of my believe - we Braves are more than only strong-willed, we are the direct childrens of the Gods...

Why has Gothar brought Light to the Darkness - why has Gothar given the possibility to the Dark to ascend to the Light?

Cause Gothar wanted to enlight the Darkness with his creation - the Light of Ganareth and its sun.
Before that there was nothing - nothing is Darkness.

[Zeral]

The way of dark is far more suiting for my needs so that is the path I will follow and yes I will aid them in their battle against the light but only to extend the power of Agnar.

Many might belive Gothar to be powefull.

Yes, he was powerfull, at one time. Long ago.
That time has passed, he has lost his power, like a withering flower.

This is the new era! His children are all fighting for supremacy and it is my duty to serve Agnar and make sure he will become the god of gods.
From his throne he will rule all, mortal and gods alike.
His kingdom will come and I will be there by his side.

The destructive way of dark serves that end the most, I will swear loyalty to them, I will fight for their cause but only in the name of Agnar.

Soon more will come to realize this and join the crusade. We will grow in numbers and we will crush the so called champions of the weak gods.
It is only a matter of time...

[Brave Starr]

It is only a matter of time...

Till Darkness bows down to the eternal Gothar - Destruction used by the wrong attitude for the false purpose leads into nothingness, Gothar once created all but the nothingness of Darkness.

So he created the Light to be eternal.

See we all are Chilren of Gothar and cannot deny the destiny destined to us by the way of Gothar.
We only may fail in the trials of this destiny destined if our will, belief or sight is corrupted.
Which means Ascension is not a Gift granted by Gothar, but a Virtue demanded to achieve!

[Lisan Al'Gaib]

Gothar the origin of everything.
He created Ganareth, and gave it the sun,
to repel Darkness for eternity.
Then, he gave birth to nine gods, born from his essence. He gave each god a kingdom.
But soon, the young gods, who wanted to be worshiped...

Praise Gothar who gave birth to all but the existing Darkness.
Praise Gothar who gave the darkness the possibility to ascend to the Light.
Praise Gothar by respecting his means - he gave the Light to all his children.

Enlighten those who dare to choose the wrong path - they will descent to suffer what they deserve in Darkness.


/edit:00c: The real difference between Light and Dark is negative Destruction leading into Darkness, which is the nothingness Gothar enlighted with his own, but not the origin of or from Gothar.
Light is Gothar itself impersonated through all the positive Meanings of all the Gods under his glorious Sign, even Destruction may be helpful to build the Light!

first, get the quote right

"BEFORE everything there was only Nothingness. In his chariot driven by the Sun came Gothar the almighty and he lifted up the heavy veil of Nothingness. Down below he set a huge, strange glinting sphere, beautiful and fascinating, and he called it Ganareth. And Gothar said, let there be my realm: and there was his realm. Satisfied with what he had created, Gothar rested from the long journey and all his work which he had made. As Gothar rested so, the Sun went away and the heavy veil of darkness fell down again. Angered, Gothar tied up the Sun to Ganareth and condemned him to go round Ganareth to chase the darkness away. From then on, the Sun went round Ganareth and chased Nothingness that was fleeing ahead of him; the shadow and the light, the night and the day took turns upon Ganareth; and it was so."

Before everything, thus darkness must be older than gothar himself.
The light did not like the darkness and so ran away meaning gothar had to bring it back, tied it to Ganareth and then everybodys happy, except the sun that doesnt want to be there.

The REAL differance between Dark and Light is the mana they use, how it works best and how they govern themselves. Not on light provided by Gothar or the darkness that was already there. The terms are just denoted to the look of the mana. if the crystals were orange and puple this game may have a very differant name.

Gothar does not want people to bow down to him, he specifically wants no people to worship him. You are blinded to your folly and indoctrinated with a corruption of the truth.


Till Darkness bows down to the eternal Gothar - Destruction used by the wrong attitude for the false purpose leads into nothingness, Gothar once created all but the nothingness of Darkness.

So he created the Light to be eternal.

See we all are Chilren of Gothar and cannot deny the destiny destined to us by the way of Gothar.
We only may fail in the trials of this destiny destined if our will, belief or sight is corrupted.
Which means Ascension is not a Gift granted by Gothar, but a Virtue demanded to achieve!

Destruction used by the wrong attitude for false purposes, sounds kind of like what your doing really, using false arguments to back up your points. Also the nothingness was there before everything, suggesting before gothar himself, so again, lies and misinformation.


Rules u follow...

Rules are for the citizens, Virtues are for the Enlightened.


Don`t worry about the strength of my believe - we Braves are more than only strong-willed, we are the direct childrens of the Gods...

Why has Gothar brought Light to the Darkness - why has Gothar given the possibility to the Dark to ascend to the Light?

Cause Gothar wanted to enlight the Darkness with his creation - the Light of Ganareth and its sun.
Before that there was nothing - nothing is Darkness.

So, you consider yourself above the law? yet you are not following the wrong attitude?
You are not the direct children of the gods, you are the bastardised half children of the immortals and humans. The immortals arn't gods, they are just immortal.

[Kinslayer5]

Listen to the mighty Lisan Al Gaib. He sees all.

[erewynn]

Call me a n00b, but I chose Dark, how do I fix it?

[~Obscurity~]

In your profile you can change that to light

[cepheus_movos]

Light side FTW

[erewynn]

I did it! A+!! ty ty

[Athene]

Indeed. light will own all, simple. . because i am light

[Athene]

Light side FTW

ppsst. bish ass, stop faking my guild. our guild names are very similiar.
and urs is just a fake copy of mine.
Eitherway, this is not cool.