Defenders Of Light

[Nwani]

Defenders Of Light is a guild born and raised in Star Wars Galaxies ( SWG ) where we are still active.

Any " Light " member should have a familly feeling towards his/her guildmates and always be ready to fight the darkside!

We are many different people drawn together from different places of the planet with the desire to be proud to be Defenders Of Light and have fun in a group of friendly people.

/deepbow
Nwani

[Raiz]

I will stand on you right side m8

Raiz

[Raiz]

And J on your left side =)

[Ellesse]

Ill fight at your side m8,

[Raiz]

Very nice to see you her, Ellesse

[Sup3rdude]

I'll stand on Raiz's shoulders and we can make a human Pyramid :)

Here is the link for guild page for random players surifng our page :D
http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/clans.php?s=&do=view&clanid=675

Naeho

[Raiz]

True Naeho true........

[Nwani]

We should be able to make a pritty good pyramid :)
Though we are missing little auroah...she would be great at the top of the pyramid....

[Auroah]

I will dance on the corpses of our enemies (No, I wont take bard :P)

[Okano]

yes Stick around !

cos ill be back to pwn once again

[Ellesse]

Itll Be Like The Good Old Days !

[Raiz]

we have become a littel squad now =)

[Sup3rdude]

Woooooooooohoooooooooooooo

The Mighty Midget is coming with us :)

Arrrrr I think we be having ourselves a little adventure yaharrrrr.

[Raiz]

Naeho go on line on x-fire, plz

[Jmazder]

Hmm a pyramid... now that sounds fun :)

We are the recon squad... soon more will follow us.

*to bad i cant set anything on fire* :(

[Raiz]

Nwan'i you dont work today?

[Jmazder]

Does nwani have a job?

Isnt he a full time guild leader?

[Raiz]

lol....

[Nwani]

No, Raiz...on my lunchbreak atm.

Ive seen some of u switching classes from day to day...anyone able to point out pros and cons for the different classes and races and do you know where I can find a good place to read up on them?

[SeeckerMojie]

hi guild mates im new to light and im going to try out darkandlight dont know much about it and hope to hear or c from u there

[Raiz]

Nice you are welcome!!!!!!

[Raiz]

Sign up for light her to, SeeckerMojie
Go to guilds and page 30 you will find Defender of Light and join!
/raiz


naa not fun J

[Jmazder]

*thinking of reporting raiz for spamming this thread*

Raiz you can use the edit button -------->

[LimeosClaw]

Hurray! I finnaly got an account activated, took bloody long enough. Old Nwaitus needs to let me in the guild though

[Jmazder]

you are so welcome.

Join us in the human pyramid.
:)

[LimeosClaw]

Only if there is a space at the top :p

[Jmazder]

i think that spot is reserved for auroah. :P


*trying to find out what the minimum peps we have to get to have a guild*

[Raiz]

Hi Lim nice to cya ya!

[LimeosClaw]

I'm wondering how the guild system actually works. When it's released on december 8th will Defenders of Light be up and running for us when we get in? Or will we have to register the fact that this is our guild?

I'm confuzzled, but I'll leave all that nonsense to Nwan'i :D

[Raiz]

I think Jmazder or Nwan'i can answer this question.
But i think we have to built up ouer own "town" from
the beginning.

[LimeosClaw]

I thought we had to "take" territory or a town before we could call it our own... not sure if creating a guild is tied in with that or not. That's just what I got from skimming the site though I havn't bothered reading all of it yet.

Just point my sword in the right direction and I don't really care.

[Jmazder]

we will not be able to build a city at the begining of Sog, But it will.
One can build a fort to defend at the begining... but how to do that no clue.
And yes and i think we have to take a territory to be able to build a fort...

I think we will figure all that out.

*stands next to lim , pointing the right direction*

[Jmazder]

just found this on the forum:

*Are there going to be any? I think it would be a cool idea if your guild had its own emblem, which could be put on a little sign on teh outside of your clothing/armor, and next to it could be your legion standard. I Think it would help with identification purposes*

The answer: * Yes, that is currently in as far as we know.

[Raiz]

cool good work J im not surprised

[Rad3on]

I'm going to be following you lot here too it seems :P

[Raiz]

Good Radeon i have missed you!

[LimeosClaw]

Good job radders, here's hoping they release a fish race.

Also I demand that Auroah is the smallest possible creature, it should be guild law.

[Nwani]

Sweet...welcome Rad :)
Hmm fishface and smallest possible....might need to rethink guildlaws :P

[Nwani]

Does nwani have a job?

Isnt he a full time guild leader?

Hmm not a bad idea...maybe start charging a member fee that goes right in to the guildleaders pocket?? :D

[Erkat]

/signing in

hmmm where's the droids then?

Maybe we will have automatons here or undead that I can build and fight with instead... oooh Necromancer maybe

I wanna make siege engines! :)

[Erkat]

Anyone know if any of our friends in Cabal are going to try DnL?

[Raiz]

Nice Erkat good we are a bigger recon squad now =)

[Raiz]

Plz you can check it out and invite them her =)

[Sup3rdude]

Welcome bud, I'm sure we'll get alone just great :)

J u can flame stuff apparently sorcerer's or something can make fireballs fall from the sky :D

Been talking with em, we'll see what happens.

[LimeosClaw]

I've no idea what I want to be, though I usually gravitate towards Tank style guys. I've never been good at the magic type roles (reason I went MDEF and not MEnhan).

So a Brave (big human style race) Paladin is where I'm looking.

And it looks like you can have more than one character so Lexxu will be a Rouge, maybe human, maybe fairy.

Damn why isn't it the 8th of December already so I can try all this out :p

[Auroah]

"Only small people are allowed to drive the guild siege engine, its your law!!! Get off Limeos, I'm warning you!!!" .... mmmh

[Raiz]

hehe..

[LimeosClaw]

Don't make me /pet you Auroah...

[Sup3rdude]

J' got some news for u (if u dont already know :P)

U can still burn people:

Sorcerer:
Fire mastery offers a set of classic skills: fireball, flaming weapon, flame shot, fire wall, as well as fire resistance buff/debuff, and of course the renowned meteor rain that inflicts tremendous damage.

May not be a flamethrower or a fire dot but meteor rain is pwnesome

[Raiz]

Haha she will always be knowed "The Burner"
Thats nice ......

[Nwani]

I've no idea what I want to be, though I usually gravitate towards Tank style guys. I've never been good at the magic type roles (reason I went MDEF and not MEnhan).

So a Brave (big human style race) Paladin is where I'm looking.

And it looks like you can have more than one character so Lexxu will be a Rouge, maybe human, maybe fairy.

Damn why isn't it the 8th of December already so I can try all this out :p

I always seem to end up with tank templates aswell so my first thought on this was Braves - Warrior...though the more I read the more confused I get :

Wood elf - Archer/Ranger
Human - Sorcerer/Rouge
Braves - Warrior/Palladin

This is what I mainly look at now...anyone able to give me some feedback on these or even if there is some other race/class that is important to consider?

[Jmazder]

J' got some news for u (if u dont already know :P)

U can still burn people:

Sorcerer:
Fire mastery offers a set of classic skills: fireball, flaming weapon, flame shot, fire wall, as well as fire resistance buff/debuff, and of course the renowned meteor rain that inflicts tremendous damage.

May not be a flamethrower or a fire dot but meteor rain is pwnesome

Good morning all.

Well well.... think i have to change my profession.. :)
Im nothing without my fire......mmm.. burn..

[Jmazder]

This could be cool to do for our guild, and it gives us a great RP background story about our guild.





Integration of guilds into the DnL Universe

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Integration of guilds, of those who have registered, and as such have a thread in the guilds forum (of each community).

We are currently working on the organization of the world of DnL and, as promised, we plan to integrate the guilds for the launch in November.

You will be able to specify place names (localities, cities) of which you come up with and that form an integral part of your history. We will add them, provided the name and its history agree with the Universe.

You may request for NPCs to be placed in order to represent your guild:
- These NPCs are to be given a particular name, involved within your history.
- These NPCs are tasked in telling an anecdote or a piece of history relating to your guild.

We also plan to allow you to set up quests/trials accessible only to the members from your guild: for example, each member for his enrollment, must recover an object or make a pilgrimage to meet a particular person.

If your history is related to particular objects, we can also see whether a particular model that corresponds to this object is available: in this case, we can create a single object including the name and description of the aforementioned object.

More on the point surrounding the creation of the cities and locales: it will take place only after release, where you will then have time to go "and become familiar with the land" and that you will be able to then indicate the desired site(s) to us. To indicate them as of now allows us to evaluate the number of places to create accordingly. Lastly, all this is not at all automatic, nor an obligation. If we consider that your requests do not tally, they will be refused or otherwise presented to be modified.

I propose a "standard" questionnaire for you to complete and return to us (using the template below) in order to give an initial idea of your guild. It is to in no case to be too exhaustive and if you want to you can include otherwise summarized descriptions, or elements which seems significant to you, then do not hesitate to do so.

UPDATE: The integration in-game will be done once the guild is in-game, at release of SoG, and have finaly located where they wish to "setup" their "base/HQ"(providing it is suitable)

Also please include the Name of your guild as the Subject-line.

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Guild Information Template:


Name of the guild:

Brief History: (history of origins, within the Dark and Light universe - CANNOT be as though from "another world" or "Plain of existence" or such like (including "from game X") - "another land" is ok as this would imply from somewhere else far in Ganareth. Avoid conflicting with the DNL/SOG history or tales or involving deities to the point of them having them involved in a physical (direct) activity in the world in concern with your history submitted - However their influence on an individual as part of a "Dream" or "Hallucinations/Visions" for example can work. And ultimately, as it is a history, please ensure to include dates (according to the dark and light time line and events)

Headquarters: (location) or Famous places [For the moment there will be no sub-terrain (underground) so avoid this]

Members: (number of members)
Leader(s): (Name(s), titles of the leader(s) and email)
Religions: (deity or deities commonly worshiped by the members of the
organization, if any)
Alignments: (overall alignment(Dark/Light))
Symbol: (description of, and Graphic/Logo]

Motivation and Goals:

NPCs [NpCs can :
-tell story about the guild or any subject related
-give a quest
-do both]



Guild Quest (If the members have a test
Note: Quest can't include Items that need to pick from the ground neither elements to pick out from within a barrel (for example) etc. Objects used in the quest can only be "quest objects/items" (can't be dropped, exchanged neither destroyed or traded by the player) or "normal items". The rewards (if any) are to be sensible (so not in the 10s of thousands, we would otherwise balance this, so as not to unbalance the economy of the game. If you can not identify a figure, then an approximation like: "Mid/high/low/or none" )

PLEASE COMPLETE THE ABOVE TEMPLATE IN ACCORDANCE WITHT HE ANNOTATIONS. COMPLETE IT AND ONLY SUBMIT IT IN ITS ENTIRETY

[Raiz]

well....

[LimeosClaw]

That sounds fricking cool.

Trouble is we know nothing of the land or anything like that so how would we know where to place it and why?

Other than that it sounds like they have a great engine to work with where they can manipulate and create at will.

[evosi]

I will fight at your side

[Nwani]

About the form J posted....I allready talked to 2 persons about looking deeper in to it and if there is more of you that wanna be involved in it, let me know and we'll put together a workgroup focused on that form!

[Jmazder]

i would like to help out.

And welcome Evosi.

[Raiz]

Welcome Evosi you forgett to press Join buttom

[LimeosClaw]

I'll obviously help out.

[Jmazder]

Guilds:

Guilds can be formed in SoG. Here is a short list of features:
*Membership Management
*Rank Management
*Guild NPCs and Quests will be available
*Managing the guild hierarchy (for example, you can create an "anarchy" model guild)
*Messages of the day (MotD) for the guild and for specific ranks
*Common bank account linked with ranks for authorizations. Its history and bank account can be viewed.
*In a future patch: ownership of guild fortresses

[Jmazder]

Farlan gave us today some more detailled informations about the number of SoG accounts.

Pionneers

Each person buying a pionneer package will have a Settlers of Ganareth account.
You'll be able to buy them at this page: http://www.darkandlight.net/pioneer/PioneerOrder.html

So it makes 8.881 accounts in one hand.



Free SoG acounts

There will be 10.000 free accounts available at this page: http://www.darkandlight.net/pioneer/RegisterSoG.html

So it makes 10.000 other accounts in the other hand



Conclusion

You must have one of those SoG accounts to play Settlers of Ganareth. There will be only 18.881 accounts available at the begining of SoG server.

So if you want to play Settlers of Ganareth, you have two possibilities:
- buying a Pionneer package and being sure to have a SoG Account
- waiting for December the 8th and trying to have one of the 10.000 free accounts

[LimeosClaw]

Thats the trouble I've seen, there just won't be enough accounts to go around. Some of us may not make it in :(

[Jmazder]

i know.... but we can try... and never give up on the hope.

[Raiz]

Ok guys lets hope =/ we all get a account!!!!!!

[LimeosClaw]

Well it opens at 6pm gmt on the 8th apparently so if we sit there like lemons waiting for it to refresh we should be fine.

[Sup3rdude]

yup, I've already planned my day. gonna have my credit card details ready to copy and paste in so i make a pioneer account :)

I reckon we should name the guild city/fort

"The Fortress of Light"

Sounds really dramatic and stuff :P

[LimeosClaw]

ooo so you are going for the 24th November pre order then?

Stuff that I'm going for the 8th december bog standard account. I won't get any cool stuff when it comes out but I'm not pre ordering a game I havnt even tested yet :p

[Sup3rdude]

Leap of faith my friend.

Leap of faith.

Besides Cool dragon pet and guarantee that My character will get transfered in DnL in his SoG state.

What could be better, I'll just go refund ToW

[Nwani]

Raiz, J, Lim and Naeho if any of you aint got me on their msn and xfire, pls add me!

I wanna disscuss the form J posted with you.

And for the rest of you....add me too :)

msn - nwan_i@hotmail.com
xfire - nwani

[Nwani]

ooo so you are going for the 24th November pre order then?

Stuff that I'm going for the 8th december bog standard account. I won't get any cool stuff when it comes out but I'm not pre ordering a game I havnt even tested yet :p

Where is your faith my friend ;)
Pre order here I come...someone posted how much he paid on SWG for beeing their beta tester including all expansions and monthly fees and he realised 59.99 was pritty cheap for this one :D

[Sup3rdude]

Raiz, J, Lim and Naeho if any of you aint got me on their msn and xfire, pls add me!

I wanna disscuss the form J posted with you.

And for the rest of you....add me too :)

msn - nwan_i@hotmail.com
xfire - nwani

Oh yeah I should do that.

Oh wait I already done that a month ago :P

Too much bluberry and cream paj make your brain melt :D

[ewafea]

Hello

This sounds like it could be fun !!!!!!!

[ewafea]

Where do i sign

[ewafea]

Ithink ive done it :)

[Raiz]

hehe good....

[Lim'eos]

I say, this is getting rather cosy.

[LimeosClaw]

Oops wrong account; my dark dark secret is out.

[Jmazder]

*stares at Lim*

What was that?

- hey!! i think Lim is a spy!!

[Sup3rdude]

Yes! His cunning name disguise has fooled as all!

mmmmm I love pie.

can't wait for this:

"Today's Guild Message is: Pie is tasty"

"Today's Guild Message is: Pie is good for you"

"Today's Guild Message is: Pie is Paj in swedish"

"Today's Guild Message is: Pie can be bought from Pikea"

[Fereyon]

It´s a honor for me to be with you in DNL

[Jmazder]

Naeho... what have you been smoking?

nice you finally learned some swedish... :)

And welcome Fereyon :)

[Sup3rdude]

The plastic fumes coming from my pc I think.

And another makes the leap :)

Welcome Fereyon, the new era of Light is near it's dawn.

[Jmazder]

We shall bring light in this game also!!... away darkness.. here we come!

[Sup3rdude]

Reckon we'll need to decide where we gonna settle down the new Light in.

Forest? Desert? Snow? Near the Sea? Near marshes?

What's everyone think?

[Jmazder]

mmm.... i vote .... snow.

[Adder00]

hello everyone, yes i vote snow as well......

[Sup3rdude]

Snow would be fun, but i reckon it be really cold (enviormental damage?)

Up a Mountain is what I favour, High ground advantage. Good visibility of enemy insurgents. Downside is if your retreating you cant get back quick.

[Adder00]

well but think of this, you can make snow angels :)

but yes a mountain or hills is the best position......

[SirAllanon]

I want snow, then we can build a snow castle...

[Sup3rdude]

I reckon there gonna be alot of snow cities :)

Anybody seen the shield sliding in the snow ^^

Its awesome

Crap better pick a class that uses a shield now :P

[Adder00]

yes i have seen it, it looks really cool....we better build a ski lift if we place our guild on a snowy mountain ;)

[Jmazder]

hmm ski lift now thats an idea.... and maby a place to buy jegermeister... to get warm.

[Jmazder]

Theres a man going around taking names. And he decides who to free and who to blame. Everybody wont be treathed the same, there will be a golden ladder going down, when the man comes around.... lalalaa....

[ewafea]

This is all new to me so i will need explainations for all
like which character build to go for and all that what is this i hear about if you pre order you cant take your character and dragon with you on full release seems a little bit of a waste of 40 quid if all you get to transfer is your name and cash the dragon seems a little pointless if you cant take it to full release

anyone know for sure i am only going on whta i have been told

[Sup3rdude]

The Gifts apply to Dark & Light not Settlers of Garaneth.

Pioneer accounts do get some gifts for SoG but they dont apply to DnL, as the DnL ones are better :)

You do get to carry your charcter forward thoo

[ewafea]

cool even better

[Nwani]

Hi Ewa, nice to see you among us :)

For the info you ask for we have very little answers. Naeho have posted on our website some basics when it comes to races and classes. There are some healer classes available ^^.

[Jmazder]

Check this out... so you get how big this game area is.. (map)

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/8748/mmocomp5oi.jpg

[Nwani]

Well we might find a place or 2 to explore :P

[Jmazder]

hehe.. i would guess so.... its sooo big.

[SirAllanon]

Yes that is big... In wwiionline to fly and bomb from on side to the other takes 40 min and then the forward airport for bombers is as close to the front as you can get it. I don’t want to think about the time it would take to walk it...

And in wwiionline there is over 600 cities and towns and over 29000 buildings, and the graphic engine to that game is old. OMG you could walk for days without meeting anyone on a map that big...

[Sup3rdude]

Thankfully we can teleport to a group members location :)

[Nwani]

Yay im one of the pioneers :)
Well atleast I got a mail saying so :P

Got 1 mail of confirmation and 1 empty mail..?

Also dont really know how the key thing work if they are sending it later or if its allready activated with my account...well I prolly live to see :P

GL every1 and keep refreshing!

[ewafea]

Im in i think gl to all who are still trying

[Raiz]

I got a key to!

[Nwani]

Morning all!
Finally friday :D /bounce

So 7 have pre ordered so far?
Lets *raise hand* if you have!

*raise hand*

[Jmazder]

*Raise Hand*

*make my happy dance*

[LimeosClaw]

I havn't, but I didn't try :p

[Sup3rdude]

Do or Do, there is no Try.

It seems there are alot of other guilds with names envolving Light out there:

Order of Light, Order of the Light, Light Order, etc :P

We really need to mak sure we get the Defedners of Light guildname and <Light> guild tag in game, doesnt guarantee that the name will be reserved if it's used in the forums.

[Jmazder]

its allready on the ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8237152606

sad... sad indeed.

[LimeosClaw]

I don't think we'll have trouble with Defenders of Light, I mean we managed to get it here.

The tag <Light> may be a problem though. Either it will already be taken or we won't be allowed it at all.

Same way your not allowed Luke, or Han Solo etc in SWG.

[LimeosClaw]

I sold Auroah on ebay once.

True stroy.

[Jmazder]

I sold Auroah on ebay once.

True stroy.
how much did you get for her?

[Sup3rdude]

Think it was about £34.99

...umm...I dont know that because I bought Auroah from jebay honest :p

Just some nice screenies I found on the chinese site:

http://www.gzmask.com/dnl/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10&cid=1

http://www.gzmask.com/dnl/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9&cid=1

http://www.gzmask.com/dnl/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11&cid=1

And stone henge is here too:
http://darkandlight.gameamp.com/gallery/viewScreenshots/5963.php

AND :p about faries the descritption says:
Fairies, tiny and always female, are magic creatures who live in communities and travel by flying. They have compelling seductive powers, making them loved by all.

Does that sound like Auroah to you?
Change the word love for FEAR and seductive for KERSPLOITING and u get Auroah :p

A desert city might be pretty cool for Light:
http://darkandlight.gameamp.com/gallery/viewScreenshots/5956.php

[Adder00]

*Raise hand*

tjohoo

[Jmazder]

*Raise hand*

tjohoo

*slaps Adder00, be quiet, slave.*

[Nwani]

Agree the tag <LIGHT> might be hard to get but Defenders Of Light shouldnt be a problem...

Any backup suggestions on tag?

Hmm J, u claimed adder allready? :P

[Jmazder]

i have claimed you all.

So you better be nice to me ;)

[Adder00]

why, you little......*punches jmazder in the face*

[Jmazder]

watch it ...boy!! or you'll taste the whip :P

[Adder00]

whip..ha, you will tast my cold steel....

[Jmazder]

ohh tempting.....

[ewafea]

A desert city might be pretty cool for Light:



Nooooooooo not more sand :)

[ewafea]

Raise Hand

/bounce

a suggestion for tag <DoL>

[LimeosClaw]

how much did you get for her?

Nothing :(

[LimeosClaw]

Oh yeah we won't be able to call our city Light.

Darthvadernooooooooo!

[Adamanth]

:shifty: OMG :shifty:

HI GUILD!!!
Hendel's Here!!!!!
Shaya just told me you were posting here!

Yesterday we both got a pioneer account.
That's a nice surprise :dance:

Let's keep in touch and please let me know how the guild is going to develop.

Of course you can count on me.

Adamanth AKA Hendel

[LimeosClaw]

I demand that all your names in DnL are the same in game as they are in SWG.

I get confused easily otherwise.... and I'm lazy.

[Shayaelyn]

hehe lazy boy:D

Happy to be here with the great people of Light!!!!

/deepbow to all

Hope tp see you soon in this new world:D

*kiss all around*

Shayaelyn

[Sup3rdude]

Raise Hand

/bounce

a suggestion for tag <DoL>

I was gonna say the same that or:

<Lux> which i believe is latin for Light, cant confirm my translator broked.

But <DoL> would be best :D

We called always call the city Lux or Lucris or whatever Light is in some other language that isnt filtered :p <--- demented smiley ftw

Glad to have more peeps joining us, so is that everyone with a pioneer accoutn who wanted one then?

[Nwani]

Well...DoL sounds good and why not have our city namned Ljuset :)


Shay and Hendel nice seeing you here, now hurry to our clanpage and join our guild :) Clan id 675

[Nwani]

ooo and I clicked the links Naeho posted and looked at them all...damn the vid when u see a dragon take off......gah let the 8th come quick!!

[Adamanth]

Just submitted the request to join Light.
May the for... ehm the dragons be with us!

[Nwani]

Accepted my friend...happy to have you with us again :)

...and dragons...hmm the image from the vid appears again /bounce

[Raiz]

Nwani call ouer city Ljuset!, good idea!!!!!!

[LimeosClaw]

Whats wrong with Luminous?

Ljuset sounds like Swedish for Light to me :p

[Jmazder]

Ljuset sounds like Swedish for Light to me :p

thats right Lim. /hug

[Adder00]

well i think "ljuset" sounds really good....;)

[Nwani]

Might be to much swedish though....cmon you all, more suggestions!!!!

[Jmazder]

thinking..... where's my thinking cap?? anyone seen it?

[Adder00]

yes i have seen it.....well i saw it, before i burned it...ha ha ha....

[SirAllanon]

Well we can use the latin world for Light, "Luminarium"... There is "Lumen" to, it also means light. But I like "Luminarium" better...

[SirAllanon]

yes i have seen it.....well i saw it, before i burned it...ha ha ha....

And a nice fire it was...

[Jmazder]

yes i have seen it.....well i saw it, before i burned it...ha ha ha....


ohh you.... okey one gold coin to the one that brings me Adder's head on a plate.

[SirAllanon]

ohh you.... okey one gold coin to the one that brings me Adder's head on a plate.

Cant I just cut it off and bring it in a basket??? Or a "ICA kasse"???

[Adder00]

arghhhh anyone that comes near me will tast the cold steel....

[LimeosClaw]

I think going the Latin way with the city name works best.

If we even get to choose the name of the town/city/fort/collection of mud huts :p

[Nwani]

Luminarium gets my vote...if we get to choose that is :P

Anmd every1 welcome Shay and Hendel :)

[Adder00]

welcome to defenders of light shay and hendel......

[Adamanth]

I like Ljuset and Luminarium...
I'm trying to remember some of the Latin I learned in High school ( to follow Lim's suggestion).

What about Lucent? I don't think it's latin, but this name was roaming in my head (lots of free space there :p ).
If I have the chance I might try to find my latin-Italian dictionary and see what I can sort about lux (light) and similar.
I wouldn't discard Swedish/German words either. We are going to play in a Fantasy world and we might come up with a Vikyng deity, so why can't we use a northern european word?
:god: Did you choose the main deity for Light? We should also start from there and see if we come up with a deity that can suggest us a name for the city.

Ok, ok... i just proposed more questions than answer :p come on let's crush our brains on this :whistle:

[LimeosClaw]

Well Luminarium makes me imagine a place like this (from LOTR)

http://www.plebsquad.com/michael/other/lotrwallpaper/lothlorien.jpg (http://www.vbulletin.com)

Which I think suits us rather well :)

(I broke the frame, deal with it :P )

[Sup3rdude]

Latin meaning of Light ftw :)

But if we go after the Lothrenn thingy means we kinda got to go with a forest city :)

[Nwani]

*Yawn...early night for me, take care all!

[LimeosClaw]

It wasn't the forest thingy I was going with, more the tranquil lighty uppy type place.

I'm a lok/tat man not an endor/yarvin man :p

[Adder00]

well i think that Luminarium sound cooler...but it depends, should it sound like light or have the same menaing like light or be asociated with light?? if that then we can have many names......?

[Adder00]

and yes ...Luminarium as before sound cool but it also sounds like a evil cult from an game....;)

[LimeosClaw]

Oh I can do evil don't worry :hothead:

[SirAllanon]

Welcome Shay and Hendel, let the light shine on you...

[Nwani]

So bring some suggestions!

Lets try to come up with something associated with pure/light.

ooo and morning all...:)

[Erkat]

I'd suggest on the current theme, Luminari. Doesn't the 'ium' bit in latin designate a building or room? Might be wrong.

My 2 copper pieces worth.

[SirAllanon]

I'd suggest on the current theme, Luminari. Doesn't the 'ium' bit in latin designate a building or room? Might be wrong.

My 2 copper pieces worth.

I dont know, I found the latin word for light on the net. So I dont know, dont speak latin...

[SirAllanon]

Wohooo looks like there will be clothes and not only armour to put on...

Clothing (as in the fancy stuff that you can put on) will be implimented later on after the release of SoG...they have been besieged by dragons for centuries...you don't expect them to have fancy clothes do you?!

So, thread answered, lets not let this catch fire, eh?

Have a good night
Jodh

[Sup3rdude]

Really need something to wear under the armour, all the flesh poking out where the arms meet the chestplate isnt very well armour like.

Lots of holes for archers to have their way.

[Auroah]

I'd suggest on the current theme, Luminari. Doesn't the 'ium' bit in latin designate a building or room? Might be wrong.

My 2 copper pieces worth.

the 'um'-bit does just mean the words "gender" is neutral, doesnt it?

anyway check out this map: http://www.fallen-legion.net/screenshots/images/map.jpg

thats what we will be able to play already in SoG (http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1457 is the DnL map). I say we should settle for a small island west from Sarathia :P

[Sup3rdude]

Btw only 2 of the kingdoms are open in SoG, so might be an idea to wait until DnL goes live before we place the city of Light.

[Auroah]

Btw only 2 of the kingdoms are open in SoG, so might be an idea to wait until DnL goes live before we place the city of Light.

pffft

[Nwani]

Only thing we can place at the start is a fort if im right...

Well time to get some sleep...NN all!

[Nwani]

Morning all :)

[Ellesse]

Morning Nwan'i :D

I'm Well Looking Forward To 8th December Now, Just Been looking At Some Of The Videos And Things, DnL Should Whipe The Floor With SWGs NGE.....

Yeeeeeeeehhhaaaawwww !

Elle

[Nwani]

Hi Elle :)
Havent seen u in a while...have you pre ordered?

[Jmazder]

How is the construction of player-bought buildings handled?
Except fortress management, which uses a different and dynamic system, players who wish to build a house will have to find appropriate land first, pay the price and then start constructing. This construction process will be represented by a building site that will last as long as the construction process, depending on the building chosen. The construction system will be very simple and intuitive. A management skill, related to SxP, will be the main requirement to build something.


Can players decorate their house?
When you purchase your home, you can decorate it the way you want. Crafters can even show their skills this way.


Can burglars get into players' houses and steal everything?
Nobody can steal a player’s possessions; therefore, you do not need to be afraid of this possibility.


Do buildings lose condition with time?
Buildings lose condition with time if nobody repairs them. They will turn into ruins, they disappear.


Can players build infrastructures?
Players will not build roads or bridges, however these structures may appear as Ganareth evolves.
For instance, if a village appears in a place without a road, and use the same route to reach the village, our team may decide to add a road there in order to adapt the universe to people's habits. Moreover, players may build infrastructures such as barns and industrial buildings.


How will you set prices in order to preserve the buildings and avoid decay?
Building and management take many elements into account, such as the time of construction and the kingdom. A wooden cabin on the beach will cost less than a luxurious one to maintain.


Can buildings be reinforced and upgraded?
Yes, your avatar will have to reach a specific level in order to enhance or reinforce his/her house and other buildings.


Do buildings decay?
All buildings decay if nobody fixes them. They will turn to ruins, and eventually vanish.


Will everyone be able to enter our house?
The owner can give access to someone for a visit.


You said we wouldn’t be able to build our houses at the exact location we wanted. But will we have some kind of organization?
Construction zone will be defined beforehand, near the cities. Density is controlled by terrain size. The type of terrain can influence the type of construction.


Will we have items (either looted or crafted) that will have no function but to give more depth to the game?
Yes, you will have furniture, paintings, plants for your terrain, trees, ornaments.


Will there be platforms in villages, that preachers, politics, artists and other actors can use?
Every village will have its own main place.

[Nwani]

Do I get this wrong or can we not build a whole city and name it, just place our own houses in a beforehand decided location?

[Jmazder]

What happens to me when I die?
Death penalties change according to your level. A low-level player will get his entire inventory back and will not lose any experience. A high-level player will have important penalties when he dies.
The higher your level, the slower the items you dropped when you died come back to your inventory. Finally, this recovery process will be so slow that you'll be driven to go back where you died and get your pack by yourself.

But on the long run, dropping important items may be discouraging. This is why you will drop only a small part of your inventory, depending on your level and the items.


If you lose too much experience, can you lose a level?
No, you cannot lose a level as you lose experience when you die.


Is there an “unconscious” state before you die?
No, DnL has a coma state that allows resurrection. A state of advanced decay, or disintegration, doesn’t allow this.


Will items decay?
Yes, items (including weapons and armor) will decay with time, until they become useless.


How does mining work?
This activity requires special tools.
When the mining activity is complete, the extracted resources may be loaded onto carts and carried to town, or to a mana fountain. Of course, these carts may be attacked.


What can be mined beside Crystals?
Mining is a skill that allows you to gather wood, metal or gas.
Note that there is another skill related to it, called exploitation, which will raise the amount of resources you can gather from your mines at once.


Can dragons fly indefinitely?
Dragon flight is limited in time; moreover, you have to feed him, or he feeds upon you

Besides dragons, are other flying mounts available?
Yes, many flying mounts are available, such as pegasus or griffins.

[Jmazder]

Will there be a guild management system?
Guilds will be an important feature of the game. They will get a specific interface for management and conflicts. They can get their own guild hall and dedicated tools.

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Can guilds own houses in PvP kingdoms?
Setting your guild in a PvP kingdom is a possibility, but alignment wars and treasons make this choice a risky one.

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Can a character belong to several guilds at the same time?
Yes but there is one restriction: you may not belong to more than one fighter guild. Except this, you can belong to several crafter guilds or others.

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Will there be NPC guilds?
At launch, all the guilds will me handled by NPCs, and little by little, they will let players control these guilds.

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What are the population limitations of a guild?
A guild is made of at least 10 people. There is no maximum.

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Can a guild get its own coat of arms and show it on clothes or weapons?
The coat of arms is an important element of roleplay and guild identification. It will be possible to choose your own coat of arms and to show it on different parts of your equipment. But this option will be available after the release.

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Will a guild have several management tools available?
Depending on the internal activity, the investment regarding the rest of the community and the impact of guilds, more or less powerful tools will be at their disposal, such as quests creation for your group, or discounts on the prices of components for crafters guilds.

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Can we buy a guild house?
Yes, this guild house can have several specific rooms, for trade activities, teleportation, etc.

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Is there a guild organization open to players from both alignments?
Yes, but this is open to religious guilds only. It will be centred on one god, therefore out of Dark and Light rivalries.

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How do religious guilds work?
There is a clergy hierarchy, in which guild members can reach higher levels. These guilds aim at gathering people around their god, and building temples and altars to increase their god's influence. Concerning fights, divine influences may help the members as a gift for their dedication.

[Jmazder]

How can I get a title?
You can get a title thanks to your social actions. Therefore, it depends on SXP.

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How does barony/county/duchy/kingdom management work?
First, you need the appropriate title to rule over these territories. You can get this title either by violence or by election. Given their limited amount, there will be many barons, counts, dukes and princes without a kingdom. But they will always be able to create a village around a fortress in order to show their skills and train themselves. Competition will be tough…

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How many baronies, counties, duchies and kingdoms are there?
There will be many fortresses to take, but the number of domains smaller and will change according to the number of players in order to keep an interesting challenge:

Every Dark or Light PvP kingdom has from 3 to 5 Duchies
Every Duchy has from 3 to 7 Counties
Every County has from 5 to 9 Baronies
Every Barony has from 3 to 13 fortresses
This does not include the 213 cities available, and an even greater number of small villages that is too high to be mentioned here.

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How can I become baron, count, duke, or even king?
Barons control a city when a pre-defined number of fortresses in the zone is on their alignment. A county is made of several baronies. When a specific number of baronies are controlled by an alignment, a count of the same alignment can control the territory. And so on. The number of fortresses you need to control may depend on the situation.

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How are nobles elected?
There are two phases:
The first phase, when Dark and Light starts, is about fortress or city capture, as they are controlled by neutral NPCs at the beginning. But in order to control a barony, you will have to get the title of baron. You can do so if you choose the political path. Players who don't have any title can capture only fortresses. In this case, they get the title of Lord, which is the lowest title available, since fortresses have a very limited importance in political management.

The second phase is made of elections, when all baronies are taken, and when a player without any title launches an attack against a player-owned fortress. In this case, the player cannot own the barony, and elections are set in order to decide who will control the newly seized barony.

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How does the hunting and game system work?
The Baron chooses what kind of game he wants on his territory, and pays the price. In order to get profit from this activity, he automatically gets an income when hunters kill a prey on the said territory.
Game have a limited lifespan, and predators may hunt as well, which means a potential loss of money.

Hunting will make you earn SxP.

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Will there be any penalty for a dethroned or dead baron's allies?
There will be no direct penalty in such cases.
However, the new lord may have a different view on the management of his land, and may decide to raise taxes! Note that there is no distinction between Dark and Light here, a Light character may choose to live in a Dark Barony.

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How can lords manage their city?
A character with a nobility title will have a "command rod" allowing him to manage his land through a management interface that will show every option available. The noble will form a management council, which will run business when he is away.

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If a noble is assassinated when outside his fortress, does he lose his domain ?
These actions have no consequence on fortress ownership

[Jmazder]

How do you become "wanted"?
If you act against the code of honor repeatedly, your faction in a barony may decrease. When you have lost enough faction, you become wanted, and the other players may hunt you down for a reward. Guards from the opposite faction will attack you on sight. In some cases, you can even have a wanted status outside your own barony.
The most wanted players can have this status at the scale of a county, duchy, kingdom, or even the whole game.

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Can players become "wanted" if they are part of an attack, or if they defend themselves?
The code of honor says that a player who defends himself does not have to fear to switch to "wanted" status.
Likewise, when a fortress is assaulted, the global level of attackers and defenders is calculated by the game, and then the fortress gets its own level according to this calculation. If you attack a fortress whose value is close to your group’s value, you have nothing to fear, even if there are a few low level players among the defenders.

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Once you are wanted, can you mend your ways?
Some quests allow you to retrieve your divine faction in order to be forgiven. These quests are mostly actions towards your god, like donating to temples, or killing creatures that are opposed to him.

[Jmazder]

And much more to read about on:

http://www.stratics.com/content/portals/dnl/content/faq/

I hope some of you questions will be answerd on this site.

[Adder00]

wow, good work jmazder, you have keept yourself busy, do you work at all :)

[Jmazder]

work, what is that?

[Adder00]

he he he, that is something we normal people do.....so GET BACK TO WORK!!! ;)

[Nwani]

hehe nice work J :)

[SirAllanon]

SOE have found Tiggs replacement...

http://img316.imageshack.us/my.php?image=soe2vi.png

"There are no canceled accounts here...the people who WOULD cancle are dying on the walls of this city....the people asked for these enhancments...please, there are no cancled accounts here...we are in control..."

[Jmazder]

haha.. nice one sirA.

[LimeosClaw]

As I read it (correct me if I'm wrong) you can build houses near npc cities but cant "drop" a city in place like you do in SWG.

Rather it's the guild controlled fortresses you get to name, add upon etc.

So looks like we name our fort Luminarium :p

[Sup3rdude]

or the (put on deep booming god-like voice)

"The Fortress of Illumination"

Has an Illuminati ring to it but it sounds cool :)

Also Just to make sure everyone is aware we will be a LIGHT side aligned guild.
NOT DARK :)

Just incase some peeps weren't sure, although the guild name is a clue.

Shadow Knights aren't Light side fyi, Biting people and making them dead is very bad :p

On another note:
http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/clans.php?do=view&clanid=708

Looks like Caio isnt very popular amongst the dark side here in DnL
*cough* we got more members :p *cough*

[LimeosClaw]

Check out their logo :D
Good old eXile.

[Adder00]

yea i agree "the fortress of illuminarium" sounds cooler then "the fortress of luminarium"

[Nwani]

Morning Defenders!

[Jmazder]

Yawn.... Good morning.

Really need coffey...

[Nwani]

Just finished my third one and going to visit the site u posted yesterday....alot to read there :)

Anyone know where you could read about the different class trees?
I hear its 3 in each class and you get to choose 1 of them at lvl 20.

[Nwani]

Hmm know I asked before but, how many did actually pre ordered DnL?
I know me, J, Ewafea, Hendel, Shay, Naeho, Adder, SirA, Raiz and Erkat did...anyone else?

[LimeosClaw]

Not me :D

[Nwani]

Nub tbh :P

[Jmazder]

Auroah got a pre order key.

[Nwani]

Yay sweet :)

[SirAllanon]

Morning Light!!!

[SirAllanon]

Saying it here to, you can change you’re avatar again...

[Nwani]

Its morning for you SirA???!
I allready had my lunch...Ciabata med tonfiskröra, oh and a Fanta :P

Anyone know why the avatar gets stuck on every message?

BTW...still undecided about Monk or Palladin!

[SirAllanon]

Well some of us have to work to 23:30 and don’t go to bed until around 2-3...

And I have hade 4 slices of familjelimpan and kalles randiga, to that I hade 3 cups of zoegas coffee... And one glass of julmust... http://www.free-smileys.org/emo/eatdrink005.gif

[Nwani]

ooo kalles randiga.....not bad :)

[Sup3rdude]

2 bacon sandwiches for breakfast, made em for my m8's for letting me stay on the floor in their flat :)

And Bacon is the only thing I can really cook :p

Brie & Bacon on white baguette ftw (That was lunch).

[Sup3rdude]

http://www.free-smileys.org/emo/eatdrink005.gif

That's not jullmusty thats Guinness!

Guinness is spelt with 2 N's and 2 S's :p

[Nwani]

Last day of Tacitus sub....and it feels great!
Cmon bring on the 8th NOW!

[Nwani]

AAARRRRGGGHHH!!!

Just found out my work has a pre xmas party december the 8th.....DOH!

[Nwani]

Hi and welcome Harley!

Another one coming from SWG - Chimaera!

[SirAllanon]

That's not jullmusty thats Guinness!

Guinness is spelt with 2 N's and 2 S's :p

*Looks at his Julmust, hoping it to be a Guinness...* No still julmust... Darn... http://www.free-smileys.org/emo/sad009.gif

And welcome Harley!!! Here have some julmust... http://www.free-smileys.org/emo/eatdrink003.gif

[Nwani]

Aww...stop the julmust post, im all out of it :(

Well better go to sleep then :p

NN all!

[Adder00]

Guinness yuck!! that´s a horrible beer....;) but julmust mmmmmmm :)

[Alfredeus]

I would like to join your cursade against the dark. I am also from star wars as well. I played all the way up to where they strunk all professions down to 9 crappy ones.

-alf

[Nwani]

Goodmorning Defenders!

And hi Alf :)

Care to tell us some more about yourself?
Wich server did you play on and what guild/guilds were you involved in?
etc etc..

[LimeosClaw]

I'm starting to think SOE have shares in DnL, release a shoddy product and get us all to come over here.

[Nwani]

Lol yeah...they sure supplied the best buy argument just a few weeks before DnL pre order :D

[Jmazder]

Found this:

Question: In regards to building a castle; will we have to find a specific place or will we be free to do it where we want in Ganareth? How shall we proceed to get a house?

Vuuar: You will choose the place where you build your castle. But, GM's have the right to destroy a castle that was built in an "un-gameplay friendly" way. All you need to do is buy a title (a parchment) that will enable you to build a castle in a barony that still has some "castle spots" left. You will then buy each tower or wall of your castle depending on your finances. (Source: 11-23-2005 SoG/DnL DevChat)

So we better be fast.

[harleyjohn]

Hi and welcome Harley!

Another one coming from SWG - Chimaera!

Thanks!!!! :D
Hi ppl,
Been playing SWG for some time now but feel all my hard work has been undone by NGE, thus looking forward to starting something new and exciting.
Was into FPS games but quick to lose interest, dont know why MMorpg does it for me, maybe its the building of a character, always having more skills and power to aquire.

My name was HarleyDavidson lol never very original but ppl always called me harleyjohn since 1991 when I bought my first Harley and been a cutom bike builder ever since, and yes this makes me old(40) and a little slow on the key board so have patience.

Have been into computers since the sinclair zx81, and was big on overclocking though I prefer to keep a stable slower rig now.

Looking forward to getting started and meeting you ppl, I see many of you are from SWG and have much experiance. I am pleased to be excepted.

Thanks :)
/deepbow

Harl

[Alfredeus]

i played star wars for a good 2 years off and on. was on bria. started as a crafter named alf-ock, made my own town/guild, the people in the city left, so i stopped playing for a bit, came back after the cu, then joined a city and was in Brother's Keeper on talus. then alf-ock began his journey to become a jedi, but then i left since i just couldn't get used to the new game they made out of the old one.

Question for you all though, do you plan to have fortresses? I was just wondering as i was looking for a light guild who was so i could help defend it, and pvp, and explore, and whatever the game might have in store us.

Also, did anyone in this guild actually get a pioneer key?

-alf

[Jmazder]

Not all kingdoms have been recaptured and pacified. Launch the recapture of Dark and Light kingdoms: Free the first baronies from Dragoon’s domination. (Source: 10-17-2005 Settlers of Ganareth Newsletter)

· 540 forts available: build your own fort where you see fit in the world of Ganareth and get ready to defend it. Conquerors will come soon enough.

· Many Baron titles for the most enterprising of people.

· The mercenary mode allows you to get right into the action. Subscribe in order to be automatically summoned when a lord or baron needs reinforcements.

· Use the call system for attack groups: call the fighters you need and get ready to besiege the enemy.

· A territory map, updated in real time, allows you to see the conquests of Dark and Light in Ganareth.

· Power the Mana towers and use them as strategic weapons: spread your Mana and create transportation networks in order to travel using your Dark or Light Mana.

· Get ready to defend your fort: Recruit defenders; purchase and place your defensive buildings strategically; and determine the time slots when your fort can be attacked in order to optimize your defense strategy.



Alf... we are about 9-10 people who has the pioneer key.
And building a fort is our priority.

Alf and Harley you are very welcome :)

[Alfredeus]

Thanks for the info Jmazder :-D.

[Jmazder]

np alf.

[Jmazder]

hehe im the info guru, Alf.
And you can call me J. everyone does that.

Have to do something on my work day :)


And for all farmers out there (looks at Lim)

Either upon release or thanks to a patch, will we be able to play a farmer? Yes, in a future patch, economic skills will allow you to own and manage a farm. But in November, when Dark and Light is released, the in-game timeline will not allow such economic skills.

[Jmazder]

More for you to read on http://home.earthlink.net/~gandir/Index.htm

[Nwani]

Thnx for your background info Harley and Alf!

Hope you will feel right at home here in Defenders Of Light :)

Ones again...welcome!

[Nwani]

ooo and I think we are 11 who has pre ordered....*stares at info guru*

[Jmazder]

*stares back at nwani*.... "Common people throw me a freaking bone.. i need to know these things.. or ill end up like the iraq informations minister." :(

[Alfredeus]

i don't know why, but being a farmer might be fun, heh.

*stares at Nwani* 12 if you didn't count me :)

[LimeosClaw]

I'm so making a fat dwarf farmer alt.

[Nwani]

Got another confirmation that im among the 8881 pioneers who will get a key.
It was in my hotmail - junkmail folder...anyone else got it?
It also says I will get my key and more info about how to activate it tomorrow.

[Jmazder]

also got that mail... so lets see what we get tomorrow..

[Skepi]

*BLING!* Wots up? :whistle: :dance: :clap: :god: :cool: :eek:

[LimeosClaw]

Skeps! Join the guild fool.

[Nwani]

Hey Skepi :)

Sign on to our clanpage and join us m8!

Clan id: 675

[Jmazder]

I got the DnL key and my pioneer number.. in the mail

[SirAllanon]

Got it to wohooo!!!

[Nwani]

Welcome home Skepi :D

[Nwani]

wOOt...got my key too :D
And I was among the first 650 pioneers :)

[Sup3rdude]

Welcome new (and old) guys

The fun has just begun :p

I got pionneer number was in the 1500's, its not 1337 but it's close :D

[harleyjohn]

More for you to read on http://home.earthlink.net/~gandir/Index.htm
Great link thanks :D

[harleyjohn]

"Remember to download Settlers of Ganareth in advance, in order to be ready at server launch!"

how? :confused:

says not able till the 8th.

[Skepi]

How did SWG Lighters think of my little scenario i wrote s wk ago for my downfall lol

[Sup3rdude]

Yeah, I seen that in the mail and went to Download page and got nothing. Rechecked the mail but no links to it.

/shrug

Skepi dont suppose the dark figure was called SOE was it :p

Step into the Light once again, leave the darkness of SWG behind.

[Sup3rdude]

Info on Profs from DnL Stratics:)
Monk:
http://www.stratics.com/content/portals/dnl/content/guides/classes/monk.php
Druid:
http://www.stratics.com/content/portals/dnl/content/guides/classes/druid.php
Paladin:
http://www.stratics.com/content/portals/dnl/content/guides/classes/paladin.php
Thief:
http://www.stratics.com/content/portals/dnl/content/guides/classes/thief.php

Thoose seemed to be the most useful, there is more their if u wanna take a look

But the link J found is more useful, just noticed it has much and such teh same things :p
http://home.earthlink.net/~gandir/DnL_FAQ_v03.htm

[Nwani]

I cant wait til they realese the skill trees for all classes available in SoG on the 7th....got to make a decision....Brave - Palladin or Human - Monk :D

Anyway nn all :)

[Adder00]

First i whant to say welcome all of you that is new......and i got my key too, and i was number 777....... (hmm to bad i wasn´t 666) :)

[Nwani]

Goodmorning all :)

And welcome Oniri!

[Adamanth]

YAY!!!
Good Morning Light!
Welcome everyone... Light is growing (again)

[Alfredeus]

I got me key, was in the 1600's, close to 1337 though. :)

[Alfredeus]

I might of missed reading this somewhere..maybe J knows... anyways, is crafting an added profession for say example a warrior? Or does this crafter start as a crafter? I have been searching through fourms and such through this site, but really suck at finding things like this. Any of you know more on this at all?

[Sup3rdude]

Crafter seems to be the social aspect of your character,

You can essential be a warrior and a crafter at the same time, althought not the best at either.

U can choose to spent skills points on social skills rather than fighting skills.

So u could be a crafters, although the times are not as civilised in SoG as they are now.

[Alfredeus]

Thanks for the info! :D. As to what you are saying, do you mean it would be easier to be a pure fighter during sog and then perhaps make an alt or whatever during dnl for a crafter since its going to be more peaceful?

[Sup3rdude]

Pretty much, you get a max of 3 characters in DnL/SoG.

So pretty much u can make a pure fighter, a pure crafter and something else :)