Weapon Crafting Guide - for idiots by idiots

[ricklowdis]

Here is a crafting guide, other guides can be found here

http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=403

Also there is a much nicer guide with screens next to the text so you don't have to click links in gbrains post "crafting 101"

link can be found here

http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60774

I'll keep it short , simple , and as easy to understand as possible

NOTE: VERY IMPORTANT SO YOU DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE I DID

Look for the lowest price on the vendors because you can buy some of these items for 1 goth and then in other places on the vendor screen they go for more goth

**** because it is bugged when you buy a higher quality item for more goth it turns to 0 quality in your inventory bags ****


Also if you are having problems finding something on the vendor its because its not there like a "plank of pine" and "dirty coal"


ok 1st off you go buy the receipt for the item you wanna craft

then go to your inventory and right click on that receipt and select learn or use

then go to the broken moon in the bottom left corner of the screen and click it then go to RECEIPT

it will open a screen that looks like this

(click link or click 1st link at the bottom of the screen or click the link below as I do not know how to make the image show up in the post if someone can tell me how I will gladly edit to make this guide easier to follow)


you will want to click the very top button where it says tanner and select what crafting class your receipt's are in so you can see them

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/ricklowdis/guide1.jpg

The 1st thing I'd like to go over in this picture is the very 1st thing it says

Needed training item 8

That means you need to craft this paticular item 8 times before you can make one for use

NOTE: This value will go down with the more points you put into training

Now you will want to go to the vendor and buy the materials needed
this paticular set of swords needs

1 broze bar for sure absolutely no substitutes for slot 1 you must have a bronze bar

for slot 2 you can have any of these 3 things
powder of chalancdony
dirty coal
turbine water

NOTE: If you look at each item under weapon it will tell you what it adds to the item also it will tell you what it adds when you put it in the slot

As seen in this screenshot also #2 at the bottom

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/ricklowdis/guide2.jpg

See under weapon where it says penetration/hit thats what it will add to your weapon + to penetration and a % to hit

Slot 3
cern leather
cern bones

for slot 3 you can only put 1 of these 2 items in there but the choice is up to you leather gives you weight bone gives you damage

then the magic ingrediant
slobber
flower seed
root

you will find on the vendor under ingrediants most are named common slobber or common flower seed


now you double click the receipt you want to craft and you get a new window where you drag and drop the regeants in

looks like this or image # 2 and 3 at the bottom

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/ricklowdis/guide3.jpg





NOTE: now if your trying to make an item for actual use you need to make enough to cover the training cost which in this screen its 7/7 so you will need to get 7 training items or in order to make 1 that a player can use.

To to that you basically gotta put the ingrediants in 7 times and click train

Once you do that you'll get a screen that looks like this or # 4 at the bottom

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/ricklowdis/guide4.jpg




Now for the finished product

You will notice a new button at the bottom inbetween train and cancel when you put the training items in the slot it says combine

It also has a % there in this screen its 92% That is the percentage you have of combining your training items together to make a real item

Also on the right you will see a 70% chance to increase that is the chance you have to make the item better than you normally could I believe that this the effect that your constallation improves


This is the 5th screenshot at the bottom or you can click this link

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/ricklowdis/guide5.jpg





hope this helps I seen alot of people complaining and I'm sure more would too as well come june 5th


******** posted by otik thanks man *******

You gain training points but creating the recipe. The different colours of recipe indicate how well you know it:

Purple - Recipe is very difficult
Red - Difficult
Orange - Medium Difficulty
Blue - Normal
Green - Easy
Light Green - Trivial

The only thing that causes the colour of the recipe to change (as far as I know) is the number of training points you have in it.

In addition to training points you gain CXP points for creating a recipe (although I believe this stops if it's light green). You can spend the CXP points on any of the crafting skills.

I think one of these is to improve the quality of crafted items, which I guess would be an additional bonus on top of what your expertise in the recipe and the quality of the ingredients gives you.

I think you need to get 3 recipes in a particular craft to Green (80 training points each) in order to become an apprentice be able to craft apprentice level items. I'm not sure how many you need get to companion or later levels.







BUGS

**** Also sometimes Items don't seem to create properly for use but it seems to be entirely random , I made 3 basic swords last night the 1st 2 didn't create but the 3rd did, I also made 2 sets of dual axes and 1 created and the other didn't ****

**** Also sometimes after I hit train nothing happend and I had to hit cancel which returned my items back to my bags but didn't create anything just kinda locked up the window I don't know if its just me experiencing this or if its everyone haven't heard any complaints about it yet but I figured I'd post it here so no one thinks they are doing something wrong ****

of course the item quality one listed above


The receipt remaining seems to be bugged as well, it stays at 3 constantly We discussed it last night in guild chat, we believe its a counter to tell you how many receipt's you have left to the next lvl, which at lvl 1 if I remember correctly only took 3 trains to get to lvl 2 so we believe the counter is stuck
but that is purely speculation

Also the chance to impove seems to go down as you level up which a few people have noted in this post and believe it is bugged, I would have to agree. I noticed last night that mine dropped from 70% to 68%









**********INSERT SHAMELESS DARK STARTER GUILD PLUG*********


I posted this further down in this thread but I'm going to add it up here

Here is a helper guild for newbies to ask questions, find people, and potentially build a guild of their own out of it.

Also anyone with knowledge of the game is welcome as well to help answer the questions

I've noticed that the people I've already helped are answering questions to others out there

And if the guild gets serious I'll create ranks to distinquish helpers so players can just go to the guild member list and find the people who are willing to help others with questions and problems

Come and go as you please, even after you leave you can add me to your messanger and shoot me a tell to ask a question if I don't have the answer I'll make up some BS then tell you I was j/k and direct you to the person who can probably answer it or find the answer for you

The link here explains some details

http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/...ead.php?t=61054



******** NOT SO SHAMELESS PLUG FOR A LIGHT STARTER GUILD********

Fjordlyn has a light starter guild and guides as well, maybe consider hitting her up with a PM or a message in game to get with her if you are light and need help

[Vastar]

Thanks Rick!

[JDnIceT79]

thanks for the info. Do you need to be near a crafting station to do all this?

[ricklowdis]

thanks for the info. Do you need to be near a crafting station to do all this?


no i stand right at the vendor and do it because i always forget or run out of an ingredient

i bet you will in the future tho

which will kinda suck I like to do things on the fly

crafting is a nice thing to do while you are regening from getting your ass kicked



NOTE: I also assume this is the same for all crafting but I haven't tried armor yet, I will when I get back in game and if its different I'll put up another guide and refine them as questions arise

I've learned some secrets about crafting that I'm not going to devulge here for the simple fact if you figure them out then you are going to be able to make better items than others and I want a competitive economy

[snowman22]

rick is the shizz!!!!

[Helenius]

Thanks for the guide, hope it will get stickied... :D

[hoosierboy75]

just out of curiosity shouldn't it be called a recipe instead of a receipt?

[MirthDragonfire]

you Sir are a true star !
Big Respect.

Of course all of this should have been explained by the devs with a proper manual with a dtailed crafting section.
How do they expect this game to prosper if they leave us stumbling about in the dark.

Thank you ricklowdis

[Arangil]

Rick, the reason why items have different prices at the vendor is because they have different qualities.

But unfortunately each time I buy an ingredient of a certain quality, it ends up being a quality=0 in my bag.

Did you have the same problem?

[Autostatic]

very interesting

[Falandorr]

its a bug for now... when you buy an item no matter the cost, they charge you only for the cheapest version and give you quality 0...

so like dirty coal is:
quality 0 = 1 goth
quality 1 = 2 goth
quality 2 = 3 goth
quality 3 = 5 goth

no matter which you choose you will receive quality 0, and only pay 1 goth. which makes it hard to make anything higher then quality 0 from items you get at the seller.

[ricklowdis]

Rick, the reason why items have different prices at the vendor is because they have different qualities.

But unfortunately each time I buy an ingredient of a certain quality, it ends up being a quality=0 in my bag.

Did you have the same problem?


yes thats why i said buy the cheapest I didn't put the reason tho I guess I thought I did but I didn't

no point in spending the extra money

also not all items show up on the vendors as well

i'll update the main thread soon to fix that



ALSO it should be recipe but in game its receipt so I figured lets go for continuity

[Agel]

Nice post, not sure about the training when you have your full complement of training items. I was doing some of that last night and all it did was create an extra training item still at qual 0.

[ricklowdis]

Nice post, not sure about the training when you have your full complement of training items. I was doing some of that last night and all it did was create an extra training item still at qual 0.


some items seem to bug and not get placed in inventory had it happen to me 4 times now

[chillx]

Please sticky this

[orangebutton]

some items seem to bug and not get placed in inventory had it happen to me 4 times now

yup it seems so I just tryed to craft my first sword but it did not place in my inv but the trainig items are gone :-(

[ricklowdis]

Bummer on the items disappearing =(

Also they break really quick too when you actually get one made because the quality drops so low on em

Anyhow

If you are looking for more help in game and don't wanna keep alt tabbing to the forums, or are guildless, or just wanna meet people in game, or wanna help people in game

this link may be of interest too you

http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61054

[kreen]

I also found in the stresstest that trying out different components in recipes that had different bonuses, say powder of chalonceny that has min/max dmg as controlling stat or dirty coal that has a different controlling bonus makes no difference to visible stats on weapon.

Did quite a lot of experiments here and it didnt seem to matter which type you chose if you were given a choice. Maybe it matters on more advanced weapons or maybe its bugged :)

[ansyen]

just out of curiosity shouldn't it be called a recipe instead of a receipt?

Receipt is an alternate spelling, a bit outdated :)

[hoosierboy75]

/shrug think that may have come out wrong....i noticed that is how it was spelled on the screenies as at first i thought it a typo, but saw that you were just typing what they called it.

and although i am NOT a literary scholar i have never heard of the receipt being used in the spot of a recipe although i am guessing that the meaning is lost in some translation or something like that.

to any extent they can call it a piece of paper for all i care so long as it gives me the ability to make something out of it....lol


oh yeah and love the laughing man tag

[Pal-Adin]

nice post. tried to make some leather armor yesterday and was "successful" however the training number didn't change. will try again today with the quality 0 items :)

[casosha]

nice post. tried to make some leather armor yesterday and was "successful" however the training number didn't change. will try again today with the quality 0 items :)

If at the bottom of the recipe is says like training 0/4. you need to make a stack of 4 training item, then put them in the slot (with the other needed stuff) to make the item.

[TavinBek]

Nice one Rick most helpful....

[Pal-Adin]

If at the bottom of the recipe is says like training 0/4. you need to make a stack of 4 training item, then put them in the slot (with the other needed stuff) to make the item.

Hehe thats typical now that I have deleted the 11 items I made. Thanks for the information though :D

[gbrain]

Nice post rick.

You may want to copy this post to the Guides Forum so it dosnt get lost in the complaining


http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=403


gbrain

[Turjon]

has anyone noticed a difference in recipes at different vendors i am trying to specialize in Bow making but i can only find longbows, while i have made a bunch of different ones (ingredients being the key) i can't find any other variant for the recipes. any help anyone

[ricklowdis]

Nice post rick.

You may want to copy this post to the Guides Forum so it dosnt get lost in the complaining


http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=403


gbrain


There is an even better one than mine in that crafting 101 post, you all might wanna refer to it

[MightyAl]

Thanks for the heads up on the quality issue... I was buying the cheap crap becuase I'm cheap, good to know there wouldn't have been a point in wasting more goths.

[gbrain]

There is an even better one than mine in that crafting 101 post, you all might wanna refer to it

but still you may want to post it anyway, hard work needs to be appreciated.

:dance:

[Otik]

nice post. tried to make some leather armor yesterday and was "successful" however the training number didn't change. will try again today with the quality 0 items :)

When I was doing crafting in the stress test I was only getting more training points when creating the finished item.

To start with it took a couple of items to get my first point then I started getting a point for each full item (not training item) I created. This carried on fro training levels 2 to somewhere between 20 and 30. Then it dropped of to every other item, then one in 3 etc.

When I got to 20 training points the recipe turned red and the quality of the items I created was 20 instead of 0. I got up to 37 training points in stress test and the recipe was still red. I guess the next change would be at 40.

The "Chance to Improve" drops as you gain training points which seems odd to me it this is your chance to improve the quality of the item. Surely it should get higher the more experienced you are with a recipe???

[-northdk-]

When I was doing crafting in the stress test I was only getting more training points when creating the finished item.

To start with it took a couple of items to get my first point then I started getting a point for each full item (not training item) I created. This carried on fro training levels 2 to somewhere between 20 and 30. Then it dropped of to every other item, then one in 3 etc.

When I got to 20 training points the recipe turned red and the quality of the items I created was 20 instead of 0. I got up to 37 training points in stress test and the recipe was still red. I guess the next change would be at 40.

The "Chance to Improve" drops as you gain training points which seems odd to me it this is your chance to improve the quality of the item. Surely it should get higher the more experienced you are with a recipe???


ok so u saying we have to come points in the training first ? and not in the quality so the recipe wil be green(or to it is green) ?

[Helenius]

sticky!!!

zzz...

[Otik]

ok so u saying we have to come points in the training first ? and not in the quality so the recipe wil be green(or to it is green) ?
You gain training points but creating the recipe. The different colours of recipe indicate how well you know it:

Purple - Recipe is very difficult
Red - Difficult
Orange - Medium Difficulty
Blue - Normal
Green - Easy
Light Green - Trivial

The only thing that causes the colour of the recipe to change (as far as I know) is the number of training points you have in it.

In addition to training points you gain CXP points for creating a recipe (although I believe this stops if it's light green). You can spend the CXP points on any of the crafting skills.

I think one of these is to improve the quality of crafted items, which I guess would be an additional bonus on top of what your expertise in the recipe and the quality of the ingredients gives you.

I think you need to get 3 recipes in a particular craft to Green (80 training points each) in order to become an apprentice be able to craft apprentice level items. I'm not sure how many you need get to companion or later levels.

[ricklowdis]

Update: since last patch

Ingredients seem to have disappeared from some vendors

It either seems that some people can buy them and others can't
or only some vendors are selling them


Also crafting stations seem to work now, they will give you a bonus if you create the item in one of those crafting shacks

[obscura]

Glue ftw :)

[ricklowdis]

Glue ftw :)

wow thanks

[Otik]

its a bug for now... when you buy an item no matter the cost, they charge you only for the cheapest version and give you quality 0...

so like dirty coal is:
quality 0 = 1 goth
quality 1 = 2 goth
quality 2 = 3 goth
quality 3 = 5 goth

no matter which you choose you will receive quality 0, and only pay 1 goth. which makes it hard to make anything higher then quality 0 from items you get at the seller.

Just to let you know this seems to have been fixed now - at least I've been able to successfully buyer non-zero quality items. Some items will have a range of qualities all for the same price, so hover your pointer over them to check the quality.

[Laloka]

hello ricklowdis
it's me, marsellus! :)

you know, your favorite Jedi :)

pioneer lvl 35 archer, stuck on lvl 29?

[Piffster]

USEFUL INFORMATION:

i dont THINK this has been said - sorry if it has:

on the progression from novice to apprentice - when i hit CXP 20 i got a message saying i was now an apprentice crafter. I have no idea where to buy apprentice recipes so i don't know if this means i can use them - but i got the message after 20 levels of CXP rather than 3x 80 TN.

just my 2p

[Laloka]

ricklowdis

tell us about the apprentice scrolls! :) i don't find them

[Steeldragonz]

you an apprentice in level but not in skill, thats what the title you get at cxp 20, also the bug that random [more often then not] when you use higher then q0 items to craft they are reduced to q0 once placed into the recipe. resulting in lower quality final products and next to no chance at getting a TN, i have made almost 3000+ robes but because of the bug i only have 2% chance on getting a TN, because they all get reduced to q0, when i use q3 and it WORKS i get 20% ish [at TN69 or so and cxp 23 think].

great system for crafting just a really evil bug in there right now

[alexml]

I ckecked all vendors and cannot find some ingredients like fruits etc... which needs for craft basic weapons, where i can find it? i try loot nearest mobs all types - no result.

[Piffster]

aah - so in order to use an apprentice level recipe it is necessary reach tn 80 in 3 novice recipes? is this the present assumption?

[Piffster]

alexml are you a dark elf? dark elves cannot see certain resources... dunno why

[Radios]

Any clues as where to find Apprenticee level receipes for Armor (Leather to be specific). I just finished getting my 3rd item to 80 TN, so I am looking for the next level items to craft.

[gbrain]

Any clues as where to find Apprenticee level receipes for Armor (Leather to be specific). I just finished getting my 3rd item to 80 TN, so I am looking for the next level items to craft.

Farlan dont like power gamers, so they are putting in new items as and when they think you are ready :)

But it is a pain not being able to find anything higher

[Radios]

I figured as much. I wasn't even trying to "power game" yet, just stuck home nursing a summer cold this weekend, so I figured I might as well trry to outfit my /inherit toon since I don't feel well enough to go out and about.

[Gawan]

Have anyone found any magic weapon recepie?

[ArchangelDLM]

you an apprentice in level but not in skill, thats what the title you get at cxp 20, also the bug that random [more often then not] when you use higher then q0 items to craft they are reduced to q0 once placed into the recipe. resulting in lower quality final products and next to no chance at getting a TN, i have made almost 3000+ robes but because of the bug i only have 2% chance on getting a TN, because they all get reduced to q0, when i use q3 and it WORKS i get 20% ish [at TN69 or so and cxp 23 think].

great system for crafting just a really evil bug in there right now

Workaround for that- not extremely useful but it's a way around nonetheless. The item isn't reduced to 0 from being placed in the recipe, it's from removing it from the stack of items. If you only purchase 1 q3 item, when you place it in the recipe it will still be q3, thus you will get the bonuses (the reason people are saying it works occasionally is because when you get to the last item in the stack, it will work correctly). So if you only want to make one good item just buy one of each of everything you need at q3 (the training items can be made with q0 with no penalty). Takes a while to get anything useful done, levelling wise, but until thats fixed, this should help some people.

[Draf]

Hello,i have a question.

I have ready the 3 Receipts.
Yes,i have 3x 80 finished items.
The Receipts are green now,but i am Novice!?!?!?
Why???
What must i do now???

P.S
Sorry for my bad english ;)
/bow

[wamfab]

Hello,i have a question.

I have ready the 3 Receipts.
Yes,i have 3x 80 finished items.
The Receipts are green now,but i am Novice!?!?!?
Why???
What must i do now???

P.S
Sorry for my bad english ;)
/bow

Im glad you can read it lol :whistle:
Quercus Druid

[wamfab]

I think this is the problem:

You get apprentice if 2 things are trueB]

- Cxp lvl 20 or greater
- 3 recipes in same profession at a [B]TN value of 80.

You got the TN also on 80 from 3 recipes?

Quercus

Sie bekommen Lehrling, wenn 2 Dinge trueB] sind

- Cxp lvl 20 oder größer
- 3 Rezepte in demselben Beruf [an B] TN Wert 80.

Sie bekamen den TN auch auf 80 von 3 Rezepten?

[Draf]

Yes,3 receips in Blacksmith i have.

My lvl CXP is 33.

[mriboy]

I am having trouble finding a tanner crafting station can some one give me a city where one is at please.
TIA,
Mike

[MightyAl]

I am having trouble finding a tanner crafting station can some one give me a city where one is at please.
TIA,
Mike
There's one in marbaum, if you're a dark, but it doesn't work for me anymore.
/cry

[Laloka]

Yes,3 receips in Blacksmith i have.

My lvl CXP is 33.


take a look at this, my TN doesnt go above 70.
Why??

http://web.axelero.hu/lalika14/screen.jpg

[Draf]

You must craft craft craft,its a long time till 80...

[Laloka]

You must craft craft craft,its a long time till 80...

dude, i've been crafting the same schematic since lvl 13, i've crafted around 2-3 thousand pieces of long bow (not the training)

there are two possibilities:

a) you guys are talking big, and you guys didn't even hit TN 70..or..
b) me and 2 of my guildies are also bugged in the same time, same way and our TNs don't go over 70

[Draf]

ok, i am ready with my 3 receipts ;)

I have 3x 80 items finish.
You not? :)
Mail to Support...you mean its buggy...

[LightFiend]

I am level 27 CxP and I have three blacksmith receipts that are at 81, 80, and 80. It still says Novice at the top of my blacksmith window and my receipts all still say Novice.

And if it wasn't mentioned earlier: the "3 receipts left" at the top is a countdown for the reaching Amateur. Mine says 0 now.

Am I missing something? How do I start being able to craft above Novice level?

[ArchangelDLM]

I am level 27 CxP and I have three blacksmith receipts that are at 81, 80, and 80. It still says Novice at the top of my blacksmith window and my receipts all still say Novice.

And if it wasn't mentioned earlier: the "3 receipts left" at the top is a countdown for the reaching Amateur. Mine says 0 now.

Am I missing something? How do I start being able to craft above Novice level?

I assume you have to wait for them to actually add the higher level recipes.

[LightFiend]

I assume you have to wait for them to actually add the higher level recipes.
I was under the impression that people in my situation had their window display Apprentice now...

And as for the people who are stuck at TN 70, do you have any points in the skill branch for training? For me at least, the chances of getting a TN point go NEGATIVE around that level. At 81 I think I was 5% likelyhood of TN+ with no points in the skill sheet and -11% with 1 point in each.

Oh, and I wonder if it is a problem that I have more than 3 reciepts that I have TN points in under blacksmithing. Or can we skill up as many as we want as long as we put the time and money into leveling them up?

[wamfab]

I assume you have to wait for them to actually add the higher level recipes.

Hello all.
I think you got a point.
If those recipes are in, mayby the novice in the top change if we select one of these.
Hope they do it soon. (they say this week)

I dont know btw how you all feeling right now but i got a painfull hand.
Clicking and putting all of the stuf in the right place.
I have ask for a counter so you could buy 50 leather at one and not klick 100 times to get them.

Quercus L33 druid

[ArchangelDLM]

So they added some new traders... traders at the craft houses (that I have seen) have the companion level recipes... but I have yet to see any apprentice level, if anyone finds any feel free to let me know... or any jeweler recipes at all :rolleyes:

[Radios]

Humm, ,no merchants in Al Drifa next to the crafting stands.....that seems wrong. Looking around for the right merchants for leather working now. I have seen some Master receipes on a Jeweler merchant so far.

[Somi]

Thank You!

[gaothfanai]

I have TN80 in three blacksmith recipes. I went to Barkur and bought the same of one of the recipes, attempted to memorize it, was told I already have this recipe. Uh-oh. I mem'd a different apprentice recipe. It shows in my list as a novice recipe. Uh-oh. I also have the problem that even though I have the prerequisites for Apprentice, everything still shows Novice. Uh-oh.

I'm assuming there's either some kind of magical, non-documented way we morph into an apprentice, or it is bugged. I'm also assuming that the apprentice recipes are bugged. I would thing if they work properly, I'd be able to either memorize the apprentice recipe, or I would not, with some statement to the effect that I wasn't an apprentice. I had a fellow b-smith who is not apprentice "level" buy and attempt to mem a recipe. He succeeded, and the recipe is Novice level.

Testing, anyone? (shakes his head)

This is all crossposted in the guide section as well, btw, since I have no idea where the whims of a moderator may light.

Idle speculation:

I just thought of a nasty little idea that I believe is not intentioned - Is it possible that we are required to have three recipes in each discipline to progress to apprentice? I can't believe this would be intentional, but if the software is checking for each crafting skill instead of just one, then I suppose that could be a reason to fail. <shrug>

[ArchangelDLM]

From the latest news post..

- Jewellers sell jewellery and all you need to craft them except ingredients.

Except recipes as well? Or is this another one of those "some people can't actually see them" bugs?

[tian33]

where is the apprentice armor and weapon sellers please?

[Alex SG]

Okay this won't teach you everything but it should help you get started... I do not explain where to find the crafting stations and how to buy etc etc since I'm asuming you've at least explored a bit... If you see any false or misleading info. please tell me and I'll edit the video or if you think I should add something and I think it's important enough, I'll add it. But remember this is just the basics and some visual aide to help get you started!

CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD! (http://www.badongo.com/vid/140965)

A helpfull little video you might enjoy that was created by Junlist. Original thread here.

http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63569

[kreen]

I have TN80 in three blacksmith recipes. I went to Barkur and bought the same of one of the recipes, attempted to memorize it, was told I already have this recipe. Uh-oh. I mem'd a different apprentice recipe. It shows in my list as a novice recipe. Uh-oh. I also have the problem that even though I have the prerequisites for Apprentice, everything still shows Novice. Uh-oh.

I'm assuming there's either some kind of magical, non-documented way we morph into an apprentice, or it is bugged. I'm also assuming that the apprentice recipes are bugged. I would thing if they work properly, I'd be able to either memorize the apprentice recipe, or I would not, with some statement to the effect that I wasn't an apprentice. I had a fellow b-smith who is not apprentice "level" buy and attempt to mem a recipe. He succeeded, and the recipe is Novice level.

Testing, anyone? (shakes his head)

This is all crossposted in the guide section as well, btw, since I have no idea where the whims of a moderator may light.

Idle speculation:

I just thought of a nasty little idea that I believe is not intentioned - Is it possible that we are required to have three recipes in each discipline to progress to apprentice? I can't believe this would be intentional, but if the software is checking for each crafting skill instead of just one, then I suppose that could be a reason to fail. <shrug>

same is true for tanners as well right now

[Radios]

Where did you find the Tanner Apprenticee receipes in the Dark Kingdom. I haven't found that vendor yet.

[kreen]

Where did you find the Tanner Apprenticee receipes in the Dark Kingdom. I haven't found that vendor yet.

Kulta, island far northof zoren island, can take a balloon to Kulta from zoren town

[Radios]

Kulta has a vendor that sells Apprentice level Tanning receipes (or will when they work) ? Guess I will have to go look there. Thanks for the info.

[kreen]

Kulta has a vendor that sells Apprentice level Tanning receipes (or will when they work) ? Guess I will have to go look there. Thanks for the info.

Radios, they are bugged like every other advanced recipe it seems, tooltip as novice and work as novice. However, its worth a trip since the vendor also has apprentice leather armor for sale so you can see what sort of stats you should be beating when the real recipes come in.

[Maegyn]

I have been working on tailor crafting since the first day pioneers could log in. I have 2 receipts at TN 80 and the other at TN70. My problem is that after 2 days (about 8 hours on game time each day crafting my heart out ) the TN level has not risen above 70 on that third receipt. ANYONE have any idea of a fix for this? I have points in my training line of crafting.

[Tepthtanis]

What happened??? I was lvl 55! went to 56, and suddenly the armor I make is the best! I mean! Everyone in my guild is rushing to me right now waiting for a piece of armor! What did I do in case it changes???

[trubbel]

What happened??? I was lvl 55! went to 56, and suddenly the armor I make is the best! I mean! Everyone in my guild is rushing to me right now waiting for a piece of armor! What did I do in case it changes???
Can you please tell us what stats that armor has?

Edit: Well, don't suppose i'll get an answer seeing as he was banned. Strange.

[-northdk-]

i have 3 novice craft to 80 and i have app scoll but i cant use any ????it tell me too hight craft level ...but i have 3 novice's to 80 and i am level 27 crafter so it is a bug or ????